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相聚加拿大的第一万个主题 - 兼聊驿路枫情组织化

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 楼主| 发表于 2006-3-4 03:17:22 | 显示全部楼层

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Post by 公益不是梦
很高兴我的帖子能够起到一些刨砖引玉的作用, 同时也看到了临时管理委员会成员的一些重量级别的发言推动了事情的发展.
如同html所说, 承认枫情论坛当前归FCH所有实际工作的起点(当然,大家正在基于当初的理念,一起完成这种个人所有权到公益组织所有权的转化.)

FCH放弃收回条款,是重要的一步,批评这个条款的原因主要是两点:收回条款,某种程度上继续承认FCH的个人所有权,从而为将来可能的产权分争埋下了阴影(这种例子很多,比如"加拿大普通话联合会");同时,FCH参与到公益组织也会存在角色冲突.

注册在BC省的争论,其实只是一个表象.实质是, 非牟利机构明确的宗旨,大纲,章程,组织架构没有被仔细思考过. 这些宗旨,大纲,章程被定义出来后,自然就有清晰的会员资格定义. 会员资格定义出来就可以选出理事会全权行动.

当前比较重要的一步是,枫情论坛的公益宗旨和大纲是什么?然后从最简单的目标开始,行动起来.


最后,尽管很痛苦,还有概念需要区分.如同html所说,公益组织有个人(比尔盖茨基金会)所有,也有组织(红十字会)所有;小熊笨笨的家园网将来也许会有一个组织(公司);产权属于一个组织,不能推演出公益的结论. 重要的是,宗旨,大纲,章程和这些"宪法"的执行力.

很高兴你回来继续参与讨论!

对我来说,只要不是根本性的原则问题,都可以求同存异。我并不认同你说的所有权不清的说法,不过,我前面已经说了,为了避免这些非原则性的争议,我放弃了 回收 的提议。(做为另外的私下讨论,我很想知道你说的普通话联合会的事例,我们另外在论坛建设讨论那个问题如何?)

你说的宗旨,大纲,章程,法律有它既定的要求,组织也可以有所改动,以枫情论坛的情况,恐怕需要改动的还不少。这些事情需要商议,谁来商议?还是我上面提到的,人的问题!

论坛会员可以用网名商议,给意见,可是,执行的,需要的是可以确定身份的实实在在的人!

动嘴,谁都会,最重要是动脑,动手,身体力行。我觉得你如此有见地,就应该站出来,也承担一份!

我想问,你对论坛与组织的关系,有什么看法?获者说,组织的工作方向,宗旨,纲领等宪法问题有什么具体见解?
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为了方便大家学习法律文件,上传放在这里,一共19页。
既然准备注册团体,得仔细看看才行。

另外关于机构是否可以跨国的问题,找了个实例(国际非开挖技术协会)参考一下
  1. [align=CENTER]国际非开挖技术协会及其成员国(地区)
  2.         (2000年8月)         
  3. ISTT OFFICIAL CONTACTS AND ADDRESSES OF AFFILIATED          SOCIETIES
  4.         (AS AT 22 AUGUST 2000)[/align]
  5.              国际非开挖技术协会(ISTT)成立于1986年,总部设在英国伦敦。协会的宗旨是在世界范围内宣传和组织交流非开挖技术,包括地下管线的铺设、修复和置换。目前已有26个国家和地区加入了本协会。可通过两种途径申请加入并成为国际非开挖技术协会会员:一是所在国家或地区已经是成员国的,申请者只能在当地申请成为当事国(地区)会员,并自然成为国际非开挖技术协会会员;二是所在国家或地区尚未成为成员国的,则可直接向国际非开挖技术协会申请,成为其会员。会员每月可从国际协会收到会刊<NO-DIG          INTERNATIONAL>及其它相关资料。
  6.                                  [align=CENTER][IMG]http://www.cstt.org/images/Image113.jpg[/IMG][/align]
  7.              国际非开挖技术协会(ISTT)总部                              
  8.          [align=CENTER]                        ISTT
  9.             15 Belgrave Square
  10.             LONDON SW1X 8PS UK
  11.             TEL: +44 (020) 7259 6755
  12.             FAX: +44 (020) 7235 6976
  13.             EMAIL: [email]info@istt.co.uk[/email]
  14.             HOME PAGE: [url=http://www.istt.com/]http://www.istt.com[/url]
  15.                                              Chairman:Prof.                                        Ray Sterling
  16.                                       Vice-Chairman: Menno Henneveld
  17.                                       Chairman Emeritus: E W (Ted) Flaxman
  18.                                       Intnl. Memb. Sec: Patricia Nolan (Based                                        at ISTT London)
  19.                                       Executive Secretary: John Castle (Based                                        at ISTT London)
  20.                                       Technical Secretary: John James
  21.                                                                       [/align]
  22.          国际非开挖技术协会成员国
  23.         ISTT AFFILIATES:
  24.          [align=CENTER]                        AATT(奥地利非开挖技术协会)              
  25.             Osterreichische Vereinigung
  26.             Fur das Gas-und Wasserfach
  27.             Schubertring 14
  28.             A-1015 Wien AUSTRIA
  29.             TEL: +43 1 5131 588-0 FAX: +43 1 5131 58825 Email:[email]eisenhut@fv-ovgw.or.at[/email]                                                          Chairman:  Reinhart                  Fritsch
  30.                 Secretary: Manfred Eisenhut
  31.                 Director:   Manfred Eisenhut                                                                      [/align]
  32.  
  33.          [align=CENTER]                        ABRATT(巴西非开挖技术协会)
  34.             Av. José Cesar de Oliveira
  35.             181 Conjunto 105
  36.             Sao Paulo – SP
  37.             Cep 05317-000 BRAZIL
  38.             TEL: +55 11 260 4295 FAX: +55 11 260 4295 EMAIL: [email]abratt@uol.com.br[/email]                                                          Chairman: Sergio A Palazzo (Fax: +55 11 3619                  3955) [email]spalazzo@amcham.com.br[/email]
  39.                 Director: Sergio Palazzo
  40.                 Administrator:Adelson Saint'Ana                                                                      [/align]
  41.  
  42.          [align=CENTER]                        ARATT (阿根廷非开挖技术协会)
  43.             Arce 957 Piso 4 “B”
  44.             1426 Buenos Aires ARGENTINA
  45.             TEL: +54 11 4777 6080 FAX: +54 11 4774 2423
  46.             EMAIL: [email]arattsz@infovia.com.ar[/email]                                                          Chairman: Juan Enrique Marconi
  47.                 V-Chairman: Dr Marcelo F Sanoner
  48.                 Director: Victor Hugo Pastore
  49.                 Memb. Sec: Lilia Ruth Tossi                                                                      [/align]
  50.         
  51.          [align=CENTER]                              ASTT                                大西洋(澳大利亚、新西兰)非开挖技术协会                                
  52.             The Water Corporation
  53.             629 Newcastle Street ,PO Box 100
  54.             Leederville 6007
  55.             WESTERN AUSTRALIA
  56.             TEL: +61 (0)8 9420 2826
  57.             FAX: +61 (0)8 9420 3171
  58.             EMAIL: [email]astt@wantree.com.au[/email]
  59.             Home Page: [url=http://www.astt.com.au/]http://www.astt.com.au[/url]                                                          Chairman: Menno Henneveld
  60.                 Secretary: Jeff Pace -      
  61.                      [EMAIL="Jeff.Pace@WaterCorporation.com.au"]jeffpace@astt.com.au[/EMAIL]
  62.                 Director: Menno Henneveld                                                                      [/align]
  63.  
  64.           
  65.          [align=CENTER]                                        CHSTT (瑞士非开挖技术协会)
  66.                               CSD-Monod Ingenieurs Conseils SA
  67.             Chemin de Montelly 78, CP 60
  68.             CH-1000 Lausanne 20
  69.             SWITZERLAND
  70.             TEL: +41 21 620 70 70 FAX: +41 21 620 70 71                                                          Chairman: Jean-Pascal Gendre
  71.                    [email]jp.gendre@csd.ch[/email]
  72.                 Secretary: Katia Gribi/Olivier Tappy
  73.                 Director: Jean-Pascal Gendre                                                                      [/align]
  74.  
  75.          [align=CENTER]                                        CHKSTT                                (中国香港非开挖技术协会)
  76.             C/O Towngas
  77.             363 Java Road
  78.             17F North Point,HONG KONG
  79.             TEL:-(Not submitted) FAX: +852 2590 7832
  80.             EMAIL: [email]philip.chan@towngas.com[/email]                                                          Acting Chairman: Philip Chan
  81.                 Acting Secretary: Philip Chan                                                                      [/align]
  82.  
  83.          [align=CENTER]                                        CSTT(中国非开挖技术协会)
  84.                               China Geology Academy
  85.                               26 Baiwanzhuang Da Jie, Xicheng District
  86.                               Beijing 100037 China
  87.             TEL: +86 10 68992605 FAX: +86 10 62770828
  88.                               EMAIL:[EMAIL="heyzh@public.intercom.com.cn"]heyzh@cstt.org[/EMAIL]                                
  89.                               Home Page:[url]http://[URL[/url]="http://www.cstt.org/"]www.cstt.org[/URL]                                                                                                                              Chairman:                                      Yan Chunwen [EMAIL="ychunwen@cenpok.net"]yacwe@cstt.org[/EMAIL]
  90.                 Secretary: Professor He Yizhang                                                                       [/align]
  91.  
  92.          [align=CENTER]                        CTSTT (中国台北非开挖技术协会)
  93.             9F, 4, Sec.1, Chung-Hsiao W. Rd.
  94.             Taipei, TAIWAN ROC
  95.             TEL: +886 2 2388 9520 FAX: +886 2 2389 4924 EMAIL: [email]meihua@mail.pcc.gov.tw[/email]                                                          Chairman: Liao Tsung-Shen
  96.                 Secretary: Sun-Kuei Wang
  97.                 Director: Professor D H Jiang
  98.                                                                 [email]dhjiang@fcums1.fcu.edu.tw[/email]                                                                      [/align]
  99.  
  100.          [align=CENTER]                                        CzSTT (捷克非开挖技术协会)
  101.             Belohorska 157
  102.             169 00 Praha 6
  103.             CZECH REPUBLIC
  104.             TEL: +420 2 3335 2000 FAX: 420 2 2051 3684 EMAIL: [email]czstt@czn.cz[/email]                                                          Chairman: Prof. Milos Karous                       
  105.                                                                  [email]geonika@comp.cz[/email]
  106.                 Secretary: Dr Jiri Kubalek
  107.                 Director: Stanislav Drabek                                                                      [/align]
  108.  
  109.          [align=CENTER]                                        FiSTT                                (芬兰非开挖技术协会)
  110.             PL 493
  111.             00101 Helsinki
  112.             FINLAND
  113.             TEL:: +358 9 27 666 836
  114.             FAX: +358 9 27 666 850
  115.             EMAIL: m[EMAIL="ritta.virtanen@insituform.fi"]riitta.virtanen@insituform.fi[/EMAIL]                                                          Chairman: Mikko Isakow
  116.                         [email]mikko.isakow@kouvola.fi[/email]
  117.                 Secretary: Sakari Kuikka
  118.                          [email]sakari.kuikka@insituform.fi[/email]
  119.                 Memb. Sec: Riitta Virtanen
  120.                          [EMAIL="ritta.virtanen@insituform.fi"]riitta.virtanen@insituform.fi[/EMAIL]
  121.                 Director: Mikko Isakow
  122.                                                                       [/align]
  123.  
  124.          [align=CENTER]                        FSTT (法国非开挖技术协会)
  125.             72 Abenue Pasteur, 93100 Montreuil
  126.             France
  127.             TEL: +33 1 4870 9232 FAX: +33 1 48709979
  128.             EMAIL: [EMAIL="FStt014870@aol.com"]fstt14870@aol.com[/EMAIL]
  129.             HOME PAGE: [url=http://www.fstt.org/]http://www.fstt.org[/url]                                                          Chairman: Michel Mermet
  130.                 Secretary: Monique Lac
  131.                 Director: Michel Mermet                                                                      [/align]
  132.  
  133.          [align=CENTER]                        GSTT (德国非开挖技术协会)
  134.             St Petersburger Str.1
  135.             D-20355 Hamburg
  136.             GERMANY
  137.             TEL: +49 40 3569 2238 (2240)
  138.             FAX: +49 40 3569 2343 (2269 for CCH)
  139.             EMAIL: [email]gstt@cch.de[/email] [email]RIEGERMATT@aol.com[/email]
  140.             [url=http://www.leitungsbau.de/GSTT/main_e.htm]HOME              PAGE:http://www.leitungsbau.de/GSTT/main_e.htm[/url]                                                          Chairman: Dipl-Ing Rolf Bielecki
  141.                 Chairman's PA: Matthias Rieger [email]rieger@cch.de[/email]
  142.                 Memb.Sec: Gabriele Kopper [email]kopper@cch.de[/email]
  143.                 Director: Professor Dietrich Stein                                                                      [/align]
  144.                       
  145.                      [align=CENTER]                        IATT (意大利非开挖技术协会)
  146.             Centro Direzionale Corte Lambruschini, “Torre              B”
  147.             P.zza Borgo Pila, 39 16129 Genova TALY
  148.             TEL: +39 010 5302476 FAX: +39 010 5451698 EMAIL: [email]info@iatt.it[/email]                                                          Chairman: Dr. Feliciano Esposto
  149.                 Secretary: P. Trombetti
  150.                 Director: Dr. Feliciano Esposto                                                                      [/align]
  151.  
  152.          [align=CENTER]                        IbSTT (伊比利亚(葡萄牙、西班牙)非开挖技术协会)
  153.             C/Alenza 1, 28003 Madrid
  154.             SPAIN
  155.             TEL: +34 91 399 5093
  156.             FAX: +34 91 399 5093
  157.             EMAIL: [email]ibstt@teleline.es[/email]                                                          Chairman: Alfredo Avello [email]alfredo@abyo.com[/email]
  158.                 Secretary: Elena Zuniga Alcon
  159.                 Director: Alfredo Avello                                                                      [/align]
  160.  
  161.          [align=CENTER]                        IndSTT (印度非开挖技术协会)
  162.             C/o NBCC
  163.             NBCC Bhavan, Lodi Road
  164.             New Delhi – 110003
  165.             INDIA
  166.             TEL: +91 11 436 9497 FAX: +91 11 436 6995
  167.             EMAIL: [EMAIL="nbccho@del2vsnl.net.in"]nbccho@del2.vsnl.net.in[/EMAIL]                                                          Chairman: A K Sarkar
  168.                 Secretary: B S S Sastry
  169.                 Director: A K Sarkar                                                                      [/align]
  170.  
  171.          [align=CENTER]                        JSTT (日本非开挖技术协会)
  172.             Akasaka Kyowa Bldg
  173.             1-6-14 Akasaka, Minato-Ku
  174.             Tokyo 107-0052
  175.             JAPAN
  176.             TEL: +81 3 3586 5181 FAX: +81 3 3586 5183 EMAIL: [email]jstt@ca.mbn.or.jp[/email]                                                          Chairman: Dr. Satoru Tohyama
  177.                 Secretary: Hiroshi Sugano
  178.                 Director: Dr. Satoru Tohyama                                                                      [/align]
  179.  
  180.          [align=CENTER]                                        NASTT 北美(美国、加拿大、墨西哥)非开挖技术协会                                
  181.                               1655 North                                Fort Myer Drive Suite 700
  182.                               Arlington Virginia 22209
  183.                               USA
  184.                               Tel: +1 703 751 5252 FAX: +1 703 3515261
  185.                               Email: [email]nastt@nastt.org[/email]                                
  186.                               HOME PAGE: [url=http://www.nastt.or/]http://w[/url][url=http://www.cstt.org/www.nastt.org]ww.nastt.org[/url]                                                                                          Chairman: Trent Ralston
  187.                 Director: Paul Nicholas
  188.                 Secretary: John Hemphill [email]jhemphill@nastt.org[/email]                                                                      [/align]
  189.  
  190.          [align=CENTER]                        NSTT (荷兰非开挖技术协会)
  191.             Baronielaan 138
  192.             4818 RD Breda
  193.             THE NETHERLANDS
  194.             TEL: +31 (0)76 530 2362 FAX: +31 (0)76 530 2357                                                          Chairman: J J van den Berg
  195.                 Secretary: Marianne Wetsteyn
  196.                 Director: Prof. Ir E Horvat
  197.                                                                       [/align]
  198.  
  199.          [align=CENTER]                        PFTT (波兰非开挖技术协会)
  200.             25-001 Kielce 1
  201.             SKR. Pocztowa 1453
  202.             POLAND
  203.             TEL: +48 22 651 69 72
  204.             FAX: +48 22 642 13 44
  205.             EMAIL: [email]paapl@qdnet.pl[/email]
  206.                                                                        Chairman: Jerzy Adamski
  207.                 V. Chairman: ArekBachan
  208.                 Secretary: Dr Bohdan Jasinski
  209.                 Director: Arek Bachan
  210.                                                                       [/align]
  211.         
  212.          [align=CENTER]                        SSTT                                  北欧(瑞典、丹麦、挪威)非开挖技术协会                                 
  213.                                 Box                                  8123,SE-104 20
  214.                                 Stockholm,Sweden,
  215.                                 TEL: +46 8 454 515 20
  216.                                 FAX: +46 8 650 81 08
  217.                                 [url]http://[URL[/url]="http://www.cstt.org/www.sstt-skandinavien.com"]www.sstt-skandinavien.com[/URL]
  218.                                                                                                                                                                                                 Chairman:                                        Gert Fischer
  219.                                       Secretary: Per Hadell                                   
  220.                                                                                                                           [/align]
  221.          [align=CENTER]                        SASTT (南非开挖技术协会)
  222.                               PO                                Box 4378
  223.                               Halfway House 1685
  224.                               OUTH AFRICA
  225.                               TEL: +27 (0)12 654 5321
  226.                               FAX: +27 (0)12 660 0613
  227.                               EMAIL: [email]dlcgtg@1africa.com[/email]                                
  228.                               HOMEPAGE: [url=http://www.sastt.org.za/]http://www.sastt.org.za[/url]                                                                                          Chairman: Joop van Wamelen [email]jvwamele@csir.co.za[/email]
  229.                 Director: Joop van wamelen
  230.                 V.Chairman: Paul J Le Roux [email]paul@ksinc.co.za[/email]
  231.                 Memb.Sec:Rachel Van Der Watt [email]Rachelle@global.co.za[/email]                                                                      [/align]
  232.          [align=CENTER]                         SVKSTT (斯洛伐克非开挖技术协会)
  233.                               Mojmirova 14                                
  234.                               Box 6
  235.                               972 01 Bojnice
  236.                               SLOVAKIA
  237.                               TEL: +421 862 5402575 FAX: +421 862 5402575
  238.                               EMAIL: [EMAIL="cbwang@cugb.edu.cn"]krcikhsb@psg.sk[/EMAIL]                                                                                          [align=LEFT]Chairman: Marian Krcik ([email]krcikhsb@psg.sk[/email])
  239.                 V.Chairman: Josef Bagin
  240.                 Secretary: Jan Kavacky ([email]jan.kavacky@hgr.hds.sk[/email])
  241.                 Director: Marian Krcik[/align]
  242.                                                                       [/align]
  243.  
  244.          [align=CENTER]                        UKSTT(英国非开挖技术协会)
  245.                               C/o                                UMIST, PO Box 88
  246.                               Dept. of Civil & Structural Engineering
  247.                               Sackville Street, MANCHESTER
  248.                               M60 1QD UK
  249.                               TEL: +44 (0)161 200 4623 FAX: (0)161 200 4646
  250.                               EMAIL: [email]ukstt@umist.ac.uk[/email]
  251.                               HOME PAGE: [url=http://www.ukstt.org.uk/]http://www.ukstt.org.uk[/url]                                                           Chairman: Dr Dec Downey
  252.                 Exec. Sec: Ian Vickridge
  253.                 Director: Dr Dec Downey
  254.                 Memb: Sec: Joan Carey                                                                       [/align]
  255.  
  256.          [align=CENTER]                         USTT (乌克兰非开挖技术协会)
  257.             Solomenskaja Str 3
  258.             Kiev 252110 UKRAINE
  259.             TEL: +380 44 276 42 80
  260.             FAX: + 380 44 276 6174                                                          President: V Markivsky
  261.                 V. President: Vladimir Ponomarenko
  262.                 Secretary:
  263.                                           
  264.                              [/align]
  265. 国际非开挖技术协会于1986年在伦敦成立,至2001年会员国已达25个国家和地区,我国于1998年加盟该协会并成为当时的第20个成员国。         
  266.          [align=CENTER]国际非开挖技术协会(ISTT)联系地址:          ISTT, 15 Belgrave Square, London SW1X 8PS, UK[/align]
  267.          [align=CENTER]Tel: +44 20 7259 6755 Fax: +44 20 7235 6976 Email:          [email]info@istt.co.uk[/email] [/align]
  268.          [align=CENTER][url]http://www.istt.com[/url][/align]
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谢谢html提供这些参考资料。
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公益不是梦 提到 关于
非牟利机构明确的宗旨,大纲,章程,组织架构等等,

其实作为初创阶段主要工作正是这些目标,我们需要将网络乌托邦的理想变成现实。

筹划成立机构,也是落实临时管理委员会最初的构想。 万事开头难,做为没有先例的探索更难,所以热诚欢迎有识之士共同来创业!
下面是当初的公告,重贴一遍供大家参考
  1. [b][color=blue]“驿路枫情--加拿大移民论坛”临时管理委员会公告[/color][/b]
  2. [b][color=blue]2005-01号(2005年10月1日发布)[/color][/b]
  3. [b][SIZE=3][color=blue]关于论坛(网站)的性质、组织机构及财务说明[/color][/size][/b]
  4. [b]论坛(网站)性质:[/b]
  5. 一个为加国华人移民服务,属全体会员所有的公益性、非牟利性机构。
  6. [b]论坛(网站)组织:[/b]
  7. 初创阶段暂时由临时管理委员会进行管理,临时管理委员会由下列会员组成:
  8. FCH、dawn0065、apple3800、hanhan、html。
  9. 临时管理委员会成员将与大家一起逐步探索建立一套
  10. 完善、公正、有效、透明的制度体系和组织机构。
  11. [b]论坛(网站)财务:[/b]
  12. 初创阶段依靠[color=blue][color=black]临时管理委员会委员[/color][/color]的无息借款支付运营费用,
  13. 今后将按照加国的财务和审计制度进行管理,广开创收渠道,逐步做到收支平衡。
  14. 如将来论坛(网站)能够赢利,赢余部分将全部用于公益事业。
  15. 论坛财务状况除将定期公布外,在有较大收入或支出时随时公布。
  16. 临时管理委员全体成员真诚希望广大会员积极参与论坛建设,
  17. 并对我们的工作予以监督指正。
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现阶段组织的成立不会对论坛的运作有什么太大的改变,论坛绝大部分注册成员都会在论坛上继续寻求帮助或帮助别人。因此我想大部分人对此事都只能说一句支持,并不能或者没时间去仔细了解很多细则,提很多意见。要大部分人都投入进去讨论根本不可能. 而大家不讨论并没表示反对组织的成立。

我想大部分机构的成立都是由几个热心人士牵头的,能否就由现在论坛的临管会和热心参与讨论的这几朋友起草临时的宗旨,大纲,章程以及会员、理事的权利义务(包括在哪注册等具体事务),再请大家在此基础上提意见,并根据此判断自己是否加入会员和竞选理事了。

我还觉得无论加入的会员的人数是多少,只要满足注册组织的最低要求,都可以先去成立,会员人数也是慢慢等组织和论坛壮大了才会逐渐增加的。
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老大,我对注册bc有些担心,现在客观的讲,驿路枫情的主要成员在温哥华,如果希望论坛健康发展,就需要多吸收其他地方的成员,鼓励其他地方的成员加入.现在把组织注册在bc,会给其他地方的成员错误理解,认为组织和论坛主要是为大温地区的移民服务的.这样一来将不利于组织和论坛的发展.我个人认为组织还是注册联邦较好,但管理机构可以设在温哥华,并鼓励其他地区的成员加入,在理事会中预留一定比例的名额,他们可以暂不参与具体工作,但需对组织筹建和运作有建议的义务和投票的权利,以照顾其他地区会员的权利.
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Post by coyote
老大,我对注册bc有些担心,现在客观的讲,驿路枫情的主要成员在温哥华,如果希望论坛健康发展,就需要多吸收其他地方的成员,鼓励其他地方的成员加入.现在把组织注册在bc,会给其他地方的成员错误理解,认为组织和论坛主要是为大温地区的移民服务的.这样一来将不利于组织和论坛的发展.我个人认为组织还是注册联邦较好,但管理机构可以设在温哥华,并鼓励其他地区的成员加入,在理事会中预留一定比例的名额,他们可以暂不参与具体工作,但需对组织筹建和运作有建议的义务和投票的权利,以照顾其他地区会员的权利.

真心感谢 coyote 的建议!

大家的意见经过讨论,汇总后,也许就是组织的主要规范了。只要发言的人,本着尊重别人,理解别人的心态,就会对讨论有正面意义。

联邦,省,都不是最大问题,俺也没有既定立场,只要可行,大家同意,就ok。
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Post by coyote
老大,我对注册bc有些担心,现在客观的讲,驿路枫情的主要成员在温哥华,如果希望论坛健康发展,就需要多吸收其他地方的成员,鼓励其他地方的成员加入.现在把组织注册在bc,会给其他地方的成员错误理解,认为组织和论坛主要是为大温地区的移民服务的.这样一来将不利于组织和论坛的发展.我个人认为组织还是注册联邦较好,但管理机构可以设在温哥华,并鼓励其他地区的成员加入,在理事会中预留一定比例的名额,他们可以暂不参与具体工作,但需对组织筹建和运作有建议的义务和投票的权利,以照顾其他地区会员的权利.

建议真好.俺不知道操作上有什么样的要求,办事机构暂时在温哥华也是有实际意义且相对可行的.希望以后壮大了,到处都可以有办事处之类的.
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注册地点,我一直没有觉得是大问题,因为我们现在要尽快解决主要茅盾,即论坛归属权的问题。解决了它,才能轻装上阵,并希望解决了它,对论坛的发展长远有利。所以,我一直觉得联邦和省注册是一样的,即使是中国注册的,也无所谓。只要它能体现属于大家的属性。html说的那些国际组织,不也是一个总部,其它分部也是独立注册的嘛。并不影响会员加入。

不过,从大家的发言来看,联邦似乎对未来发展更好。只是注册的时候稍微麻烦些,大家也要重新研究内容,另外,可能注册费用稍微高一些。这些应该都是细节了,可以克服。

那么,就联邦注册吧?还是要投票?谁愿意一起看看联邦注册的要求?

如果只解决论坛的属性问题,就快刀斩乱麻,马上搞定;这样大家可以快些全心为论坛发展做点实际的事情;

如果要详细研究,就花多些时间,慢慢做。rolia的附属npo,安省注册,前后花了年余时间,好像还不止呢。希望我们可以快些。
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我给转移到这里了。以前的地方留了记号。

说的具体些,希望有几个朋友,不论地域,一起先把事情做出来吧。联邦就联邦,谁愿意参与进来讨论细节的,就报名进来,至少要研究一下注册的手续,要求,等等。。。bc省的,我基本都清楚了,联邦的要再看看。有多几个人了解的,可以互相商量一下,还有,我自己认为,是不是这次就先解决属性问题。毕竟大家精力有限,而且我们的主体在未来一段时间,还是这个论坛,主要的工作还是围绕它。至于长远是否开展更多的公益服务,目前,我感觉真的言之尚早,大家得先顾着自己,才能想更多的帮助别人的工作,我说的对吧?俺提 乌托邦,前面还有个网络呢,呵呵。。。就是那样,已经被很多人觉得是不着边际了。。。要新移民这个需要别人帮助的群体,利用有价的时间去全面投入一个没有回报的事业,是不太现实的。

如果大家认同我上面的观点,我们就快速将组织成立起来。这样行吗?

还是那句,谁愿意一起研究联邦注册的细节,并继续在这里,或者一个特别的版面,商议细节,如果需要,见面商讨?

我也在联系注册地址,希望不会太贵,大家有好的主意吗?俺不想用自己的住址来注册,希望组织与自己的私人生活分开比较好,请大家谅解。组织一成立,我就将论坛转给组织。大家也都看到了,这个论坛还很不成熟,经不起折腾。现在是个不错的成立组织的时机,没有发展到让人有私欲的地步,又暂时稳定了一些。再拖,以后还会有类似的问题,类似的质疑出现。俺自己是受不了这样的折腾了,这是我心里话。

俺自己的税,要这段时间报,希望3月底搞定,然后全力做组织注册的实际操作。现在大家可以接续商讨,提意见。第一次做的不全面也没有关系,至少是论坛的拥有权搞清楚了,这一点是肯定的了。
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Post by FCH
至于长远是否开展更多的公益服务,目前,我感觉真的言之尚早,大家得先顾着自己,才能想更多的帮助别人的工作,我说的对吧?

我也觉得对于我们现在论坛上的这个群体而言,大家目前自己的工作生活都还没有安定下来,奢谈大规模的公益活动不现实。现在把发展论坛做为主要目标还实际一点。
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FCH给出的联邦注册信息贴出来,方便大家研究:
Information Kit on the Creation and Amendment of Not-for-Profit Corporations

     Policy Statement 13.1
September 19, 1997
   Table of Contents

[list=I]
  • Introduction ...
  • For your Assistance ...
  • Please Note ...
  • Remember ...   I  Introduction ...

    Our Role

    In our view, our role is to ensure that the requirements of the Canada Corporations Act Part II,  with respect to the creation and amendment of not-for-profit corporations, have been met, and
    To assist the applicants in the creation or amendment of a federal not-for-profit corporation in such  a way that they end up with a workable structure for carrying on their activities.
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    Our Problems

    The number of applications continues to increase, putting a strain on existing resources.
    The vagueness of the Act is a serious problem.  CCA Part II (see  annex 1) provides very few answers as to whether  particular by-law provisions are acceptable, with the result that a body of ad hoc, unwritten policy decisions  has built up over the years.
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    Our Method of Dealing with these Problems

    During the 1987/88 work year, we installed a telephone answering machine on the Examiners' line to  provide periods of peace, when necessary, in order that work could be processed.
    Also in 1987/88, we formulated a written policy designed for publication (see annex 2).   This policy tries to define what types of provisions are acceptable or unacceptable when the Act is  unclear or silent on the question.  In drafting this document, reference was made to the contemporary  thinking reflected in the draft not-for-profit legislation known as Bill C-10 which was first proposed  approximately 10 years ago but never became law.
    For a period of time, we advertised a 6-week waiting period for processing not-for-profit applications  and worked on the recurring backlog on an overtime basis.  This was as hard on the staff and their morale  as it was difficult for the applicant.  For this reason, in the Summer of 1988, we initiated a new system which  we hope will eliminate the backlog over a period of time.
    This new initiative involves the following components:

    • a revised set of model by-laws (see          annex 3) drafted by Corporations Canada, which, if adopted for  use by the applicant and properly identified on filing, will guarantee the speedy processing of the  applicant's application
    • a procedure whereby a regular user of Corporations Canada services can have a standard  by-law format approved so that those by-laws, properly identified as such, will guarantee the speedy  processing of the application with which they are filed (see how to get approval)
    • publishing the not-for-profit policy so that those who want to draft their own customized set  of by-laws will know in advance which types of provisions are acceptable or unacceptable  (see annex 2)
    • a procedure whereby an applicant may ensure the speedier processing of an application by  completing the checklist against which the application and customized by-laws will be examined  in the Directorate (see how to complete the checklist)
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      II  For your Assistance ...

    What is a Corporation?

    A corporation is a legal entity which can sue or be sued or hold property in its own name.  A  corporation provides a permanent structure through which individual persons or corporations can  act together for a common purpose without incurring any personal liability for the corporation's debts  and obligations.
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    What is a Non-Profit Corporation?

    Unlike a profit-making corporation where certain shareholders will be entitled to participate in  the profits of the company, for instance by receiving dividends, in a not-for-profit corporation, the  persons acting together for a common purpose are members who are prohibited  by the statute from receiving any pecuniary gain.  Their common purpose is not to make money for  themselves but rather to carry on some activity of a national, patriotic, religious, philanthropic,  charitable, scientific, artistic, social, professional or sporting character, or the like.
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    What is the Basic Structure of a Non-Profit Corporation?

    The two basic components of a not-for-profit corporation are the Membership and the Board of Directors.
    Under the terms of the general by-laws of the corporation, the Board of Directors is given the  responsibility to manage the affairs of the corporation.  In order to do this, they meet together as  often as necessary and may delegate certain responsibilities to specified officers so that routine  matters can be taken care of in the interval between their meetings.
    Under the federal Act, the Membership must meet at least once a year to receive the Board's  report on how the corporation has been managed over the last year and how it will be managed  over the next year, to review the audited financial statements and to appoint an auditor for the coming year.
    Certain actions of the board must be confirmed by the membership, e.g. amendment of the  Letters Patent.  In many corporations, the Membership will have the power to re-elect directors on  a regular basis and to remove existing directors, if necessary, in order that the management of the  corporation reflects the wishes of the Membership.
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    How to Apply for Incorporation

    In order to obtain Letters Patent of incorporation you must file certain documents with the Corporations Canada.
    These are:

    • An application for Letters Patent in the format set out in annex 4 (2 originals).        
    • An affidavit or statutory declaration of one of the applicants, sworn before a commissioner  for taking oaths, stating that the contents of the application are true (see  annex 5).
    • A $200 filing fee (cheque payable to the Receiver General for Canada).
    • A Canada-biased NUANS® name search report not more than 90 days old, of the proposed  name, or one $15.00 filing fee per search so that the NUANS® search or searches may be made in the  Corporations Canada.  A bilingual name normally requires 2 searches.
      The applicants may wish to consider adopting a bilingual corporate name if they intend to carry on  business in a bilingual region.
    • One copy only (unsigned) of the proposed By-laws of the Corporation (see models  attached as annex 3) with identifier, if applicable.
    • A covering letter in the format set out in annex 6, specifying the  street address of the Head Office of the corporation.
    Non-Profit By-laws must deal with at least the following matters:

    • conditions of membership
    • whether and how membership may withdraw
    • mode of holding directors' meetings (including provision for notice, quorum and voting rights)
    • mode of holding members' meetings (including provision for notice, quorum and voting rights)
    • mode of holding executive committee meetings (including provision for notice, quorum and voting rights)
    • directors

      • their appointment or election
      • their term of office
      • their powers
      • their remuneration
      • their removal
             
    • officers

      • their appointment or election
      • their term of office
      • their powers
      • their remuneration
      • their removal
             
    • committee members

      • their appointment or election
      • their term of office
      • their powers
      • their remuneration
      • their removal
             
    • auditor to be appointed by the members at each annual meeting to audit the books for report  to members at the annual meeting
    • mode of repealing or amending by-laws including a clause to say that no repeal or amendment  shall be enforced or acted upon until it has received the approval of the Minister of  Industry
    • custody of the corporate seal (with which officer?)
    • mode of certifying that a particular document is a document of the corporation (who signs on  behalf of the corporation?)
      If accepted, what you get back
    Letters Patent, with one of the original applications attached, dated as of the date of receipt of the  application in the Department.  No copies of the approved by-laws are returned to you.
    If not accepted, what you get back

    • a form letter explaining that the date of receipt of the application will continue to be the  effective date providing that the date of the returning application remains the same
    • a checklist identifying the unacceptable provisions with an "X"
    • the original pages to be corrected
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    How you Apply to Amend the Provisions of your Letters Patent

    To amend the provisions of your Letters Patent (e.g. name, objects, other provisions) you must  apply to the Corporations Canada for Supplementary Letters Patent (SLP).  See  annex 7.  An application for SLP must include the following:

    • An application document in the format set out in the annex
      .        
    • An affidavit or statutory declaration of an officer attesting to the due passage of the  by-law (by the directors and by the members) on a specific date.
    • Two certified copies of the by-law effecting the change (less than 6 months old except in  the case of a change of name).
    • A $50 filing fee (except where the purpose of the change is to add an English or French  version to the name in which case there is no fee).
    • A Canada-biased NUANS® name search report not more than 90 days old, of the proposed  name, if applicable or one $15.00 filing fee per search so that the NUANS® search or searches may be made  in the Corporations Canada.  A bilingual name normally requires 2 searches.
              The applicants may wish to consider adopting a bilingual corporate name if they intend to carry  on business in a bilingual region.
    • A covering letter in the format recommended in the annex.
    If accepted, what you get back
    Supplementary Letters Patent, with one copy of the by-law attached, dated as of the date of receipt of the  application in the Department.
    If not accepted, what you get back

    • a form letter explaining that the date of receipt of the application will continue to be the effective date  providing that the date of the returning application remains the same
    • a checklist identifying the unacceptable provisions with an "X"
    • the original pages to be corrected
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    How you Apply to Amend your General By-Laws

    A request for Ministerial approval of by-law amendments of a not-for-profit corporation must include  the following:

    • A letter (see annex 8) specifying:

      • the exact changes which have been made to                  the existing by-laws (with section references)
      • the date on which the amendments were sanctioned by                  the members in accordance with the existing by-laws
      • a request for Ministerial approval
             
    • A consolidation of the existing by-laws where a number of amendments have been made  to the provisions which are now being amended again
    • no fee
    If accepted, what you get back
    A letter giving Ministerial approval as of the date of receipt in the Department.
    If not accepted, what you get back

    • a form letter explaining that upon return of the corrected documentation, Ministerial approval  will normally be effective as of the date of receipt which follows the necessary membership approval
    • a checklist identifying the unacceptable provisions with an "X"
    • the by-law amendments
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    How you Apply to Amend the Place of your Head Office

    The Corporation may, by by-law sanctioned by at least 2/3 of the votes cast at a  special general meeting of members, change the place where the Head Office of the Corporation is to  be situated.
    A copy of the by-law certified under the seal of the corporation must be filed with the Minister.  A  covering letter indicating a street address for the Head Office must also be submitted.  A bilingual notice  of the by-law must be published in the Canada Gazette by the client.
    Sample Notice:
    Notice is hereby given that (corporate name) has changed the location of its head  office to the city of  ___________, province of __________.
    Dated __________.
    John Doe
    President
      Exemple d'un avis :
    Avis est par la présente donné que (dénomination sociale)  a changé son lieu du siège social en la ville de ___________, province de __________.
    Daté le __________.
    Jean Doe
    Président
    Address: Canada Gazette, Public Works and Government Services Canada, 5th Floor, 350 Albert Street,  Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0S5 -  Telephone: (613) 996-1268
    Note: The notice must be bilingual.  Failure to submit a bilingual notice will result in Supply and Services  translating your notice and billing you for its services.
    If accepted, what you get back
    A letter indicating that the by-law has been filed with the Minister.
    If not accepted, what you get back
    A letter identifying the deficiencies.
    Note: A change of street address within the same place of the Head Office does not require such  a by-law but must be indicated on the Annual Summary filed as at March 31 each year.  In the meantime,  a letter to the Corporations Canada providing the new address, would suffice.
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      How to Apply to Continue Certain types of Non-Profit Organizations, Incorporated  by Special Act of Parliament, under the Provisions of the Canada Corporations Act Part II

    A Special Act company without share capital that wishes to amend its charter may do so  either by having Parliament pass an amending statute (consult the Law Clerk and Parliamentary Counsel  to the Senate at (613) 992-2416, Parliament Buildings, Wellington Street, Ottawa, K1A 0A4), or, by applying  to continue under Part II of the Canada Corporations Act, pursuant to Section 159 of that Act during which  process the corporation is entitled to "limit or extend its powers" and "change its corporate name".  Once  continued under Part II, of course, the new Part II corporation would be entitled to change any part of its  charter or by-laws in accordance with the provisions of the Canada Corporations Act.
    In order to continue under CCA - Part II in accordance with section 159,  (see annex 9) the following must be submitted:

    • an application in the format set out in the annex
    • an affidavit or statutory declaration of an officer of the corporation, sworn before a commissioner  or taking oaths, certifying that:

      • the facts in the application are true
      • the corporation is presently carrying on its                  affairs
      • the resolution authorizing continuance was duly                  passed
             
    • two certified copies of the directors' resolution which was duly approved by the members  (2/3 vote) or a resolution originating the corporation's by-laws amended to comply with the requirements  of section 155(2) or alternatively, a notice to the effect that the by-laws will be so amended at the next  meeting of the members
    • the corporation's by-laws amended to comply with the requirements of section 155(2) or  alternatively, a notice to the effect that the by-laws will be so amended at the next meeting of the members
    • a copy of the incorporating statute and any amending statutes
    • a $200 filing fee (cheque payable to the Receiver General for Canada)
    • a Canada-biased NUANS® name search report not more than 90 days old, of the proposed  name, or $15.00 filing fee per search so that the NUANS® search or searches may be made in the  Corporations Canada.  A bilingual name normally requires 2 searches
    If the application is accepted, Letters Patent of Continuance will be prepared in a form similar to that  set out in the annex.
    Note that Section 156 of the Canada Corporations Act is similar to Section 159 but appears  to relate to corporations incorporated under a general Act of Parliament.
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      How to Apply to Surrender your Charter and dissolve

    A not-for-profit application for Surrender of Charter (see annex 10) must include the following:  

    • an application in the format set out in the annex
    • a certified copy of the by-law or resolution authorizing the surrender including the date it was  passed by the members
    • a certificate or statement of an officer of the corporation attesting to the due passage of the  by-law or resolution by the members of the corporation
    • an affidavit or statutory declaration of an officer certifying that the facts mentioned in the application are true
    • an officer's statement certifying that:

      • the corporation has no assets
      • if the corporation had assets they have been:                  i) rateably divided amongst the members or                  ii) distributed among other corporations in Canada                  having the same or similar objects or among other                  recognized charitable corporations in Canada
      • the corporation has no debts, liabilities or other                  obligations
             
    • the original Letters Patent (and Supplementary Letters Patent if any).  If those have been lost, an  affidavit or statutory declaration attesting to that fact is required
    If the application is pursuant to subsection 32(1), the following further documents must be filed:

    • A copy of the Canada Gazette and newspaper publications, indicating the date of publication  (see model in annex)
    If the application is pursuant to subsection 32(2), i.e. the corporation has not gone into bona fide operation  or has been inoperative for 3 or more consecutive years, the Department will publish the  notice in the Canada Gazette.
    If accepted, what you get back
    A Directive of Dissolution and Surrender of Charter bearing an effective date one year after the date of  publication in the Canada Gazette.  No other certificate is issued and the dissolution takes effect unless a  reasonable objection is received.
    If not accepted, what you get back

    • a checklist identifying the unacceptable provisions with an "X"
    • original documents to be corrected
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    How you Complete the Non-profit Checklist

    You indicate with a check mark the items that appear in your application document and you specify  under what Section number of your by-laws certain listed matters have been dealt with  (see annex 11).  Send the completed checklist along with your application.
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      How you Apply for Approval of your Standard By-Law  Format

    If you intend to use the same By-Law more than once, write to us requesting approval.  Your covering letter  should be referenced "Request for Approval of Standard By-law Format".  If your standard by-law format is  approved, you will receive an identifier.  In all cases where this standard by-law format is  used the identifier should be clearly indicated in the covering letter.  In such a case there will be no need to  complete the by-law checklist, and the by-laws will not be examined in the Directorate.
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      How you Find an Acceptable Name for your Non-Profit Corporation

    The proposed name of your corporation must be searched and approved before Letters Patent or  Supplementary Letters Patent changing the name, may be issued.  It must be searched on NUANS®, the  automated search system administered by the Department, which scans the database also administered  by the Minister.
    In addition to the Corporations Canada, certain private firms, called Search Houses may access this  database of the NUANS® system.  They will produce a 5 page computer printout called a search report  and may provide you with their opinion as to whether or not the Minister will approve the name which you  propose.  Where the search report reveals no conflicting names and the name is not otherwise prohibited  for incorporation by the regulations, you will have a priority on that proposed name, over other federal  applicants for incorporation, for 90 days from the date of the search.
    To have your proposed name searched you may:

    • prior to submitting your application to Corporations Canada, forward a request for reserving a  proposed corporate name to one of the private firms (Search Houses), who access the federal database  on the NUANS® System.  The five page computer printout which they will issue for a fee which they determine,  must accompany your application, or
    • send the appropriate name search fee along with the application and the name will be searched  when the documents are received in the Corporations Canada
    If approved, the name will be reserved for a period of 90 days from the date of the search.  If not approved,  you will be advised that Letters Patent cannot be issued.
    A copy of the relevant name regulations and the relevant page from the name policy are attached as  annex 12. Generally speaking, not-for-profit corporations should avoid names which are too general, e.g. The Kidney Institute, or connote government involvement, or are likely to be confused as being, or as being affiliated with certain existing organizations.
    The applicants may wish to consider adopting a bilingual corporate name if they intend to carry on  business in a bilingual region.
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    III  Please Note ...

    Totally Inadequate Applications

    From time to time, applicants, especially those who represent an existing unincorporated body, will  submit their organizations' existing by-laws without any attempt to alter them to meet the requirements of  the Act.  Such applications will be rejected after only a cursory examination.  The applicants will be  furnished with a kit and advised to resubmit redrafted documents for examination.
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      Complaints and Suggestions

    We would be happy to receive any constructive complaints or suggestions relating to the kit, the  model by-laws, the policy or the processing of applications, which may reasonably enable us to  improve our service.  Please address such written complaints or suggestions to the attention of the  Chief, Corporate Examination Section.
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      Registration with Revenue Canada as a Charitable Corporation

    Certain not-for-profit corporations whose objects meet the criteria specified by Revenue Canada  may be registered with Revenue Canada as charitable corporations, enabling them to issue tax  deductible receipts to those who contribute to their cause.  Information and the application form  concerning charitable registration are available from:
    Charities Division
    Revenue Canada, Taxation
    400 Cumberland Street
    Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0L8
    Telephone:  Local (613) 954-0410
    Long distance (Toll Free) - 1-800-267-2384
    In order to avoid unnecessary applications for Supplementary Letters Patent, Revenue Canada  suggests that you make your application for registration prior to or at the same time as you file your  application for incorporation.  A draft of the objects which you propose to insert in the application for  incorporation should be attached to the application going to Revenue Canada, for registration.
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      "Non-Profit" Status with Revenue Canada

    Non-profit corporations may be exempt from the need to pay tax if they meet certain criteria specified  by Revenue Canada.  Revenue Canada suggests that you consult your District Taxation office to obtain  those Interpretation Bulletins dealing with "not-for-profit" status for tax purposes.
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      Filing Requirements

    Annual Summary
    Once incorporated, a not-for-profit corporation must file an Annual Summary with the Corporations  Canada, on or before June 1st of each year, containing information relating to the year ending March 31st.   A blank Annual Summary form is sent out to the corporation at its postal address on record in the Corporations  Canada, on or about March 31st of each year.  A sample Annual Summary form is attached as  Annex 14. Failure to file the Annual Summary in any given year is an offence which is subject to a fine. Failure to file for two consecutive years can result in the dissolution of the corporation (Section 133 of the Act).
      Change of Head Office Location
    The corporation must file a by-law, sanctioned by a 2/3 vote of members, in order to change the  place (municipality) where the head office of the corporation is situated (Section 24 of the Act).
    By-Law Amendments
    In accordance with the general by-laws, a not-for-profit corporation will be required to submit any  amendments of its general by-laws to the Corporations Canada for the approval of the Minister.  Most  general by-laws require that such amendments be approved by the membership before the  application is made to the Minister for his approval.
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      Record Keeping

    The corporation is to keep the following records in the custody of the secretary or some other  officer especially charged with that duty (Section 109 of the Act):

    • a copy of the Letters Patent, any Supplementary Letters Patent and all by-laws of the  corporation
    • the names of all persons who are or have been members
    • the address of each such person while he/she is a member
    • the names, address and occupations of all persons who are or have been directors, and the  dates upon which each became or ceased to be a director
    The corporation is to keep adequate accounting records at the Head Office of the corporation  (Section 117 of the Act).
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    Director General's Power of Investigation and Inquiry

    The Director General, Corporations Canada has the power to inquire into alleged contravention  of the Act by a not-for-profit corporation.  Where, for instance, it is brought to her attention that a corporation  fails to hold annual meetings or to keep proper books and accounting records, or fails to appoint auditors,  the Director General may conduct an inquiry and, where necessary, will use the remedies available to her  under the Canada Corporations Act to enforce compliance.
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    Affidavits, Statutory Declarations and Commissioner for Taking Oaths

    An affidavit is a written statement of evidence sworn before an authorized person.  There is a clause,  known as a jurat, written at the foot of an affidavit certifying when, where and before whom the affidavit was  sworn (see annex 5).
    Where a person does not want to give evidence under oath, he/she may make a solemn declaration in  the form prescribed under the Canada Evidence Act.  Those persons who are authorized to take  evidence under oath may receive the solemn declaration of any person in this form (see  annex 13).
    Certain persons are authorized by law to take oaths by virtue of the offices they hold.  Lawyers,  notaries and Members of Parliament are automatically such persons and are called Commissioners for  Taking Oaths.  You will also be able to find a Commissioner at your local city hall.
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      IV  Remember ...

    Unless you have a particular reason for doing so, do not send your application to the Minister, but  rather directly to:
    Corporations Canada
    Industry Canada
    9th Floor, Jean Edmonds Tower South
    365 Laurier Avenue West
    Ottawa, Ontario   K1A 0C8

    • Enclose the proper fee (see annex 15)
    • Indicate if you are using the Corporations Canada Model By-law, Privately approved By-laws  which have been assigned an identifier or customized by-laws which have not previously  been reviewed by this office
    • For faster service of customized by-laws, complete and submit the  checklist contained in the kit
    • Verify that the application and affidavit or statutory declaration have been signed, sworn and  appropriately dated
    • On resubmitting your rejected application:

      • make reference to the corporate number assigned to                  your application or indicate that a DRAFT was previously                  reviewed and
      • make sure that your NUANS® search which has a life of                  90 days, is still alive
             
    • In cases where you have an urgent need to be incorporated, send your application to  Corporations Canada, by courier, highlighting the reasons for need of urgency,  in colour on your covering letter.
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