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发表于 2009-5-26 05:06:01 | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 2009-5-27 08:26:30 | 显示全部楼层
去了dongma的个人空间,真的不错,收藏了
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发表于 2009-6-5 15:07:15 | 显示全部楼层
看来各人都有各人的道理,最终还是要自己选择适合自己家庭情况的才可以,这种事情没有标准答案的。
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发表于 2009-6-9 07:55:56 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 dongma 于 2009-6-10 00:52 编辑

经过一年的努力,通过读小说,人物传记,历史,莎翁戏剧的台词能大段的背诵,加上看电视,体育,电视剧等等,孩子的IB英语成绩终于提高了。可是没有可比性呀,他的英语口语在9岁时就很好了,初二时曾获得全国中学生英语能力大赛的一等奖。再加上他还坚持使用英语,自觉地与同学交流,法语课上用英语做的presentation15分钟,老师给的满分,英语课上阅读理解也是做得最快的。所以有时还要具体情况具体分析。
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发表于 2009-6-9 08:07:32 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 dongma 于 2009-6-10 01:41 编辑

   加进一个数学竞赛的联结:http://www.cemc.uwaterloo.ca/contest...leyResults.pdf可以看孩子的成绩,及各年级数学竞赛的名称,下一个联结,里面有题及答案:www.cemc.uwaterloo.ca
   这个数学考试,由滑铁卢大学(University of Waterloo in Waterloo, Ontario)等资助,是每年一度的加拿大全国性数学竞赛。这个竞赛不像国内,大家花很多时间准备,还有专门的辅导班。在这里当时就是拿出IB数学的一堂课(只有IB班的才发卷子做),发下这套题来,做一节课。成绩出来也没有公布,和国内不一样,是自己偶然看到数学卷子才想到查成绩的。
  10 年级的成绩:Sir Winston Churchill High School 的第一名成绩是全国第14,共有6名学生获奖,西加(Western Canada)的第一是全国第24名,共有3人获奖。全卡尔加里总共有13名学生获奖。全国总共有26789人参加考试。
  假如用这个数字来推的话,即整个加拿大10年级共有IB学生26789名?

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发表于 2009-6-12 13:00:55 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 dongma 于 2009-6-13 03:13 编辑

这是孩子的英语的presentation,是按老师的要求写的一个独白.这个讲述共占20分,老师给了17分,内容如下:
Cousin Romeo, it is Benvolio here talking to you. Three days ago, only the distance between Verona and Mantua separated us. But now, it’s your canopy of stone and mud.
It seems been quite a while now, since we were free of cares. Last time I saw you was to fare you well on your trip to Mantua. I didn’t realize that would be my last time seeing you alive. I wasn’t hoping to see you this soon, knowing that the hatred of the Capulets’ would not die so easily, but fate proved to be a playful child, and those two seemingly impossible things happened overnight. You should know that our two houses ended their hatred, which I’m sure will comfort you in heaven.
And now, I am left all alone, sitting in front of your grave. Just three days after good Mercutio’s death, I now attend your funeral. We used to be such a joyful bunch, wearing visors and crashing parties, wandering in the streets of Verona, teasing the Capels together; but now, those days are gone, and sorrow haunts my life.
I have questioned Balthasar on what happened. He isn’t lying, I’m sure. He told me that you looked pale and wild, and you went straight to Juliet’s grave. Only today did I know that the one on your mind is not Rosaline, but Juliet. We used to tell each other everything, cousin Romeo! Why did you hide this from me? Friendship is constant in all other things save in the office and affairs of love. We could’ve worked things out. I think I would’ve handled things better than that cursed old Friar. You might’ve made it, cuz.
But no! Your destiny was doomed the day brave Mercutio was slain, and you slew Tybalt in turn. The ancient quarrel is now drenched in blood, and only your blood now, and your lady’s, can smother it. Now it seems more important now. That day after the party, this Monday, although I felt bad about Mercutio fighting Tybalt, I didn’t do much to stop them. I didn’t say anything or do anything to stop him when he drew his sword. I thought that no matter what happens, Tybalt started the fight, and he will be punished by the Prince. But I didn’t know that Mercutio would be slain and the lives of you and a fair lady would pay for my misjudgment. I should’ve just pulled Mercutio away, and even if I couldn’t, I definitely wouldn’t let you go after Tybalt. I now pay dearly for my miscalculations.
Alas, now I come to think of it, this whole ordeal started at the Capel’s party. I now remember you saying that it was no wit to go. Indeed so, kinsman, if that party resulted in such tragedy. We shouldn’t have coerced you into going to the party, and meeting that witch Juliet. Juliet, with her god damned beauty, that captured your heart and led you onto a road with no turning back. You and she had no hope from the start. She is a Capulet, and you a Montague. Our two houses have been enemies since our grandfathers. You know that as well as she does. If I had known it, I wouldn’t have let you woo her and marry her. But her beauty bewitched you, and the enmity became less important. Beauty is a witch. From now on, I will always keep that in mind and thus, make myself a recluse to women.
But alas, I can not blame the whole thing on her. It is her beauty’s fault that you fell in love, not hers. She suffered a lot: from what I’ve heard, she lost all hope; all her loved ones betrayed or left her, and she didn’t escape death. You and she could have lived if that annoying Pairs wasn’t so pushy on marrying her. And her wretched parents, too. And that nurse, who deserted her when the road was dark, and that hypocrite, that Friar! Damn those people! You did a good thing slaying that bastard Paris! But no! They paid dearly for their ignorance and betrayal too. The Capels lost their daughter, their only remaining child. Paris lost his life for Juliet too. Juliet’s nurse lost Juliet, not to mention other punishments bestowed on her. And I would have torn the Friar apart with my bare hands for his stupidity and hypocrisy if he didn’t volunteer to guard your graves. I can not blame others for my mistake. It is totally my fault. It is I who led you to that fateful party; it is also I who failed to constrain both you and Mercutio. What joy do I have now here living? I have been robbed of all possibilities of happiness, by you, cousin. You might as well take my life. (Pull out the dagger)
Come, death. I now welcome you!
(Prepares to stab self but lowers the dagger)
No, no. (Throw the dagger aside). Put that thing away, you coward. It is easy to endure life’s challenges when a man is happy and healthy. To go on with your life, and deal with the troubles of life when you are worn out and beaten, that is real bravery. The prince said, everyone is punished. My punishment is to stay alive, to endure the loneliness and the sorrow and the regret. I can’t avoid that by the cowardice of death. I also have my responsibilities as the only heir of our house. My sin will be deepened if I sadden your poor father even more by another loss. I will try my best to make that old man happy and content in the remainders of his days, even if my life can on.

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发表于 2009-6-12 13:59:15 | 显示全部楼层
40# ZHOUZHIQING

折腾了这么多年,漂洋过海,孩子们还是逃不了刻苦学习哦。

如果在国内,不管怎么样,孩子的课程家长还能辅导的。可是,到了加拿大,似乎一切只能靠孩子们自己了。
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发表于 2009-6-12 23:36:34 | 显示全部楼层
40# ZHOUZHIQING  

折腾了这么多年,漂洋过海,孩子们还是逃不了刻苦学习哦。

如果在国内,不管怎么样,孩子的课程家长还能辅导的。可是,到了加拿大,似乎一切只能靠孩子们自己了。 ...
Canadaline 发表于 2009-6-12 13:59

是的一切只能看孩子了.天山不会掉馅饼,只能刻苦学习。小学初中轻松一点。可他们在小学的4年级开始,就有开始分级,可看相关帖子。
人家的科技是发达的,所以他们的教学质量是好的。不同的是教学理念。
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发表于 2009-6-12 23:55:45 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 dongma 于 2009-6-13 08:58 编辑

他们在小学三年级就有省里的统考,学校排名根据成绩,在教育局的网站上可查.买房子时也能查到学校的排名.就这样抓教学质量,高中还有那么多不毕业的,昨天在Chinook Learning Service,看到了台湾来的已在高中上完3年,但仍在学习高中课程的女孩子.没有高中毕业证,无法上大学的.
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发表于 2009-6-13 03:11:43 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 dongma 于 2009-6-15 12:35 编辑

对成绩不达标的,他们有相应的补救措施,是教育局下属的机构,是非赢利的组织,学生考过再把部分学费退回,学费是280元,假如考到25%,可以退回220元,书费是85元,退回书后,退款60元,整个假期的费用可以计算为85元。整个学习利用暑假时间,对没有时间修课程的孩子,也可报名,但要有counselor的推荐信,新课是整一个月的学习时间,这样,高一一年的时间他就修完了46个学分。报名时,Chinook Learning Centre,会看推荐信的。学习是在孩子的本校,孩子就近入学,方便了孩子们,这样也可杜绝学校老师乱收费。
还有一点需要说明,免得误导别人,孩子虽然英语成绩现在可以了,但他很客观,他说他的英语至多在班里中等水平。孩子在9岁时学过的教材是《New Concept English》1,2,3;《Side by Side》1,2,3,4;《Look,listen,Learn》1,2,3,4;《College English》1,2,3,4。然后没有间断,又看了很多数学物理化学生物等理科相关的英文材料。

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发表于 2009-6-13 03:22:12 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 dongma 于 2009-6-14 07:07 编辑

下面把IB班的情况说一下,利用的材料是他们发的yearbook:
关于对IB(International Baccalaureate)学生,他们是这样写的:

    You hate it. You love it.IB. The two little letters that haunt you for the three years of your high school life.

  AH,IB.   Can't live with it ,can't live without it! What with the enrapturing experiments, memerizing math graphs,and nerdy inside jokes everything-it's all in the day of an IB. Welcome to our world.

   一个趴在课桌上睡觉的学生的照片下,配的文字是:You can't wait to go to bed each and every night...if you ever make it to bed,that ib.Sleep is you new best friend.If only there was no homework...if only there was no projects...if only...对学生的打瞌睡表示理解。也说明了IB学生的作业的繁重!

   考试的难过,并不是国内以为的这里的学生轻松。看看他们的考试,他们自己怎么说!IB for life...if we survive our exams...   Life in IB is harsh, but it's not without its highlights. the "Eureka!" moment upon understanding a problem. The questions. The classes. The friends...And hey,only 2.5-x years to go!

That doesn't sound too bad.Of course ,we'll miss it after it's all over...

   No more nice rubri--wait a secind! Stockholm syndrome??

    作业量也是巨大的,看他们怎么说!

  Perhaps if we stand ABOVE our homework,it will believe that we are superior and  that we are the ones with authority! Then maybe,just maybe, it will solve itself.

    作业量是巨大的,很多的孩子也学习到深夜。一个物理实验报告,要做实验,还要打出文字来,有10来页多,很多的作业要靠电脑来帮助完成。多亏孩子打字快,每分钟能击400多次键盘。否则真要到凌晨1-2点,如此说来,孩子上课打瞌睡也是经常的了。

  一年多,孩子通过大量阅读小说,历史,人物传记,看电视,快速地把英语赶了上来,学过的戏剧,能大段大段地背诵,终于,孩子回家后说,我的课堂考试全对,第一个做完,只有两个人是全对的(指的IB英语,物理一直考满分)。不由的替他松了口气。

   多少孩子高中不能毕业,如在高中毕业前,不能学完ESL(English as second language英语为第二语言的),不能参加30-2的英语毕业考试的话,是拿不到毕业证的。

 
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-6-13 10:20:26 | 显示全部楼层
下面把IB班的情况说一下,利用的材料是他们发的yearbook:
关于对IB(International Bachelor)学生,他们是这样写的:

    You hate it. You love it.IB. The two little letters that haunt you for the three years ...
dongma 发表于 2009-6-13 03:22


我搜集了很多资料显示,

西人学校不比中国学的少,

而是安排合理。

1、小学主要注重身体体能,比如8点多才上学;养成喜欢阅读的良好习惯,这一点非常重要!

2、从小学到大学,随着智力、体力的成熟,课程逐渐加重;我朋友的孩子出生、小学前在加拿大,

后来上国际学校,前年上多伦多大学。第一年只敢学3门课,同去的3个同学淘汰出局。

一踏进我国大学的门槛,就轻松了

有人老觉得我国的小学教育好,水平高,有意思。
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发表于 2009-6-14 07:15:03 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 dongma 于 2009-6-14 14:50 编辑

支持楼主的观点。
去给孩子报名上暑假班,学习一门新的social studies 10-1,即国内高一的社会,教材的名字是:Exploring Globalization,16开本的,有16个章节,全书共397页,另还有一本地图册,仅有整一个月的学习时间,每天平均须阅读13页书,按每月30天计算,还不算考试时间及作业,实际上暑假仅能休20多天,8月二十几日就开学了。下面是他们各个章节的内容,而学习者仅是十五六岁的孩子。看看他们的视角:
1.Globalization and Identity
2.Identity and the Forces of Globalization
3.Identity,the Media,and Communication Technology
4.Affirming,Language,and Culture
5.Foundations of Globalization
6.Legacies of Historical Globalization
7.Legacies of historical Globalization in Canada
8.Living with the legacies of Historical Globalization
9.Foundations of Economic Globalization
10.Expanding Globalization
11.Globalization and Sustainability
12.Sustainable Prosperity--Chanlanges and Opportunities
13.Human Rights, Democracy,and Globalization
14.Globalization Awareness
15.Global Connections
16.The Global Citizen
教材的内容很新,切合实际,联系当今社会现实,又联系学生本人的实际,站得角度不可谓不高,里面涉猎的内容,从卢旺达大屠杀到外资投资的风险都有。

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发表于 2009-6-14 17:02:24 | 显示全部楼层
dongma,我辛苦注册了来找你,以后多交流。
想上你的空间,但好像资格不够,只好在这里给你留言。
今天很高兴接到你的电话,很遗憾没能多聊聊,当时我正在一个旅馆的大堂里,12点必须结帐,否则算两天的钱,只能匆匆挂断。以后有机会再多聊。
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发表于 2009-6-14 17:05:48 | 显示全部楼层
dongma,辛苦注册来找你,以后多交流。
你的空间上不去,只能在这里与你交流。
今天很高兴接到你的电话,很遗憾没能多聊聊,当时我在一个旅馆的大堂里,12点必须结帐,否则算两天的钱。以后找机会再聊。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-6-14 17:15:12 | 显示全部楼层
支持楼主的观点。
去给孩子报名上暑假班,学习一门新的social studies 10-1,即国内高一的社会,教材的名字是:Exploring Globalization,16开本的,有16个章节,全书共397页,另还有一本地图册,仅有整一个月的学 ...

教材的内容很新,切合实际,联系当今社会现实,又联系学生本人的实际,站得角度不可谓不高,里面涉猎的内容,从卢旺达大屠杀到外资投资的风险都有。
dongma 发表于 2009-6-14 07:15


美国教材是几大公司充分竞争出来的
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发表于 2009-6-15 06:57:32 | 显示全部楼层
怪不得。我大体翻了翻教材,正忙着考试,等到考完再仔细看。再来说说读后感。

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发表于 2009-6-15 07:00:09 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 dongma 于 2009-6-15 12:24 编辑
dongma,辛苦注册来找你,以后多交流。
你的空间上不去,只能在这里与你交流。
今天很高兴接到你的电话,很遗憾没能多聊聊,当时我在一个旅馆的大堂里,12点必须结帐,否则算两天的钱。以后找机会再聊。 ...
wangwy0828 发表于 2009-6-14 17:05
好的。
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发表于 2009-6-15 12:32:26 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 dongma 于 2009-9-5 13:41 编辑

其实国内的家长可以下载1969年的电影《罗密欧与朱丽叶》及《杀死一只知更鸟》,美国的电影《朱诺》,看孩子的英语能理解到什么程度。这是这边高一10年级的教材。暑假老师要求看《麦克白》和Orwell《1984》。这样可以提前做功课。

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