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发表于 2011-5-27 22:49:34 | 显示全部楼层
刚收到global knowledge (IT 培训机构的广告邮件), 内容是如何在IT行业取得成功: 技术水平只是其中一项. 供参考: (另外, 对移民, 语言能力也是成功因素之一)

10 Things You Gotta Have To Succeed in IT
Jack Wallen

April 13, 2011

Everyone seems to agree that IT is a tough field. But what does it take to overcome the adversities and become a successful IT pro? These qualities may be the key.

I recently wrote a string of articles discussing various reasons to leave IT - and various alternative careers for dissatisfied IT workers. I received an amazing amount of feedback from readers who have always wanted to express similar sentiments. But that leaves out a huge swath of people: those who desperately want a career in IT, as well as those who are caught somewhere in Limbo, trying to answer questions regarding their ability to remain in their chosen field.

So I thought I would go about this topic from another angle to help those people decide whether they're made up of the stuff necessary for a career in IT. I'm fairly confident everyone agrees it's a tough field. What everyone may not agree on is what it takes to be a successful IT worker. Let's see if this list of 10 things fits your qualifications.
1: Thick skin

Let's face it. Workers in the IT industry get hit hard, from every direction. If you're not getting your chops busted by someone insisting you get a job done yesterday, you're getting torn apart because the client's QuickBooks data file can't be recovered. It doesn't seem to matter how much skill you have. If you can't take the biting comments and accusations of clients, you won't make it. Thick skin also helps you get through those periods when you, or your boss, doubts those skills you have. You don't want to have to leave at the end of the day thinking you have failed at every job you've done, just because someone had it in for you that day.
2: Persistence

The IT industry is an ever-changing landscape, and every day a new problem makes itself known. In some cases, those problems don't ever seem to want to go away. Without the ability to grapple with an issue for extended periods of time, you might find this industry more of a challenge than you care to take on. Viruses will always be an issue. Updates that tank systems will happen with more consistency than you want to deal with. End users will never really understand how computers work. If you don't have the persistent, stubborn nature necessary to meet these challenges, get out now or you will be beat down daily.
3: Youth

Although I like to think IT is a field not affected by age discrimination, it really is best suited for the younger professionals. There are numerous reasons for this. First, there are the hours. IT often requires far more hours than the usual 9-to-5 job. When a company goes down, the administrator must respond - and this could easily mean any time of day, night, or week. Those hours add up and (generally speaking) only the younger workers can keep those types of hours up week after week. Add to that the energy required to keep systems and networks up, and it should be obvious the best IT workers tend to fall into that 25 to 45 age range. The good news? Even if you start at the age of 25, there's a 20-year career waiting for you.
4: Patience

Users and clients are endlessly frustrating. If you have little or no patience, those people will quickly drive you out of the field. And if they don't completely drive you away, they will at least drive away your joy for the human race. Without patience, you won't stand a chance in the IT field. But it's not only because of the people. Systems will test your patience as well. We've all seen the video of the IT admin going ballistic on a PC. It happens. A persistent problem arises and it makes you want to ram your fist down the throat of the PC you're working on. With enough patience, you will save both your knuckles and your sanity.
5: Skills

This one should go without saying - but I must mention it. Too many times, you see people hop into the field because they managed to get through the MSCE training. But those certified workers quickly realize their classes only prepared them how to walk through a GUI. In the real world, problems arise that require numerous skills to resolve. The skills necessary to work in the IT field don't end with the ability to properly configure a domain or Exchange server, they tend to be all inclusive. You never know what you're going to be required to do on a given day. Think about it this way. When you are seen as an IT administrator, you are not only a specialist in DB administration, you are also a walking help desk who will be asked any and all questions related to work and home computers. And if you don't have the answers for the right person (at the right time), you might find yourself at the back of the line watching someone else with the answers.
6: The ability to improvise

I mean this on many levels. Not only do you need to know how to improvise a conversation. Admit it - there will be times when you'll have to convince someone that you know exactly what you are doing, even when you don't. But you will also run into situations where you have to improvise a solution. I have witnessed (and experienced) situations where the prescribed solution simply did not work. When that happens, the only way out is to come up with a solution on your own.
7: A good sense of PR

If you're a consultant, you have to be your own marketing firm. Most solo consultants do not have the budget to hire out their PR work, so they wind up doing it all on their own. This means social networking, building a Web site, writing and submitting advertisements, old-school networking, and much more. If you can't do this, your business will flounder. When you go into business for yourself, you must know the best routes for marketing in your area. Whether this is TV, radio, social networks, or flyers, you have to have the motivation and skills to handle that aspect of the business. Although word of mouth is the best PR you can get, it still has to begin somewhere.
8: Connections

This might seem a bit strange, but as a member of the IT field (especially if you're a solo consultant), you have to have connections in many related and nonrelated industries. For example, you will have customers who need rooms cabled, so you might need someone who can do drywall finishing. You might need to have an electrician in your back pocket. If you don't have specific skills, you need to know those in the industry who do. The last thing you want to tell a client is that you can't do something. Instead, you can tell them you will get it done and then subcontract that job. So long as the job gets done and the customer is happy, you will still look good. But if you can't job something out, and you have to tell the client no, the possibility of that client returning to you grows slimmer and slimmer.
9: The desire to learn

As I mentioned earlier, IT is an ever-changing industry. The minute a technology is released, it is out of date. So anyone wanting to tackle a career in IT must have a strong desire to learn. You will be challenged on a daily basis to learn something new. If you don't like learning (be it on your own, with another person, or in a classroom), you should forget about IT. Without the desire to learn, you will quickly fall behind the competition. And believe me, it's a competitive world out there, especially so with the economy still attempting to recover.
10: Passion

Passion for IT is an intrinsic need for every IT worker. If you don't love technology and solving problems, IT is not the right field for you. That passion is the intangible thing that will often get you through the day when everything else on this list fails. And a strong passion for IT will also drive most of the other points here far beyond what sheer intelligence and business savvy can manage. After years of working in the field, passion will also help you get up every morning excited for the workday ahead. Without passion, the IT field can quickly become an empty, soulless place.
When it's right

I've been pretty hard on the IT industry over the past few months. But ultimately, it is an exciting field to work in. Where else can you play with technology all day, solve problems, and make sure businesses continue to exchange product for currency on a daily basis? But just because you know how to resolve Problem A with Solution X doesn't mean you are suited for the IT industry. It requires much more than what your local computer science program will teach you. On top of all those Windows, Linux, and Mac skills, you need life, business, and marketing skills (with the added benefit of youth). With all those qualities intact, you are sure to enjoy a long, successful career in the IT field.
About the Author

A writer for more than 12 years, Jack's primary focus is on the Linux operating system and its effects on the open source and non-open source communities.

This article reprinted courtesy of TechRepublic.
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发表于 2011-5-27 22:57:17 | 显示全部楼层
"But ultimately, it is an exciting field to work in. "

我同意这观点, 移民干技术工作是非常适合的, 当然不光是IT啦. 阿省很多移民选择各种trades, 就是技术工人. 不少人读power engineering, 一个西人朋友也强烈推荐 instrumentation, 他已经61岁, 还有机会被政府聘用. 他问我, 你还知道哪个行业,60多岁了,还要你吗?

搞管理, 就算有mba, emba的, 谁会轻易给个公司你管啊? 除非自己做老板.
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-5-27 23:22:27 | 显示全部楼层
楼上的童鞋,I recently wrote a string of articles discussing various reasons to leave IT - and various alternative careers for dissatisfied IT workers.
Do you have some of those articles? I really wanna leave IT. thanks
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发表于 2011-5-27 23:27:52 | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 2011-5-27 23:32:38 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 jameslong 于 2011-5-27 23:39 编辑
楼上的童鞋,I recently wrote a string of articles discussing various reasons to leave IT - and various alternative careers for dissatisfied IT workers.
Do you have some of those articles? I really wa ...
cloud_xiao 发表于 2011-5-27 23:22


hey, buddy, since you are in IT, you should learn to do a bit digging yourself. I did that for you by googling with Jack Wallen. Here you go.



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10 alternative careers for burned-out IT workers                                                                                            
Jack Wallen March 10, 2011, 8:09 AM PST
         
So you’re thinking about leaving IT — but you’re not sure what to do instead. Here are a few alternative fields where you might be able to use your talents in more satisfying ways.
I recently wrote an article that caused a bit of a stir. That article, 10 reasons for quitting IT, brought to my inbox an onslaught of email agreeing with my reasons and/or asking for advice on where to turn. After giving it some thought, I decided I would take a stab at a follow-up article to try to address the question “What should I do instead?” Here are a few possible alternative career choices for admins and consultants wanting to get out of IT.
Some of these ideas might make perfect sense, whereas others might make you say, “Huh?” Either way, look at them as suggestions that are related to your current field — which you may or may not have already thought about. The relation to IT might be a bit of a stretch in some cases, but for others it will be quite obvious.
Note: This article is also available as a PDF download.

1: Auto repair
This might sound a bit crazy, but modern vehicles more and more depend upon computers. In fact, without the computer at its core, the modern vehicle wouldn’t be able to accomplish half of what it does. From emission control to hybrid power to brake control, automobiles depend upon computers. These computers are nothing more than embedded systems that depend upon another computer to troubleshoot, diagnose, and repair them. And since most IT admins and consultants love the thrill of fixing things, becoming an automobile technician makes perfect sense. Granted, you will need to get the proper training to make this leap.                                       

                               
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2: Teaching
The educational system does not have enough good teachers willing to go the extra mile to help future IT pros understand the career they are about to embark on. Does that mean you should step into education so you can beat it into your students’ heads that they will suffer immeasurable frustration during their career as a consultant or administrator? No. It does mean, however, that you can prepare them for the challenging road that lies ahead. And many of you will certainly understand how much difference it would have made in your lives if someone had helped prepare you for the challenges you have faced.

3: Working for a smaller company
If you’re unwilling to completely leave the field of IT, you could step down from that fortune 500 position and join a much smaller company. Having a much smaller network to deal with, few computers, and users who don’t have that same attitude toward you will remove a world of suffering from your shoulders. You could even step into the not-for-profit world and really feel wanted and loved. Although the NFP field has its own set of headaches, they aren’t nearly as intense as they can be in the upper echelons of capitalism.

4: Architecture
This is another career that would require more education. However, you like numbers. You like the order and design of the world around you. And you could learn CAD more quickly than you learned subnetting. Architecture is one of those fields where the sky could literally be the limit. You could spend some time in the great outdoors, you would be using the numbers you love so dearly, you would have a modicum of control over your own fate (perhaps being self-employed), and you wouldn’t have to deal with downed networks, fail-over, end-users, and lazy programmers.

5: Programming
You’ve spent years dealing with bugs, bug squashing, and software in general, so why not join the developer ranks and start coding yourself? Most of the programmers I know are good, although quirky, people. Some of them live singular, solitary lives, work long hours, and are dedicated to what they do. The biggest difference between programmers and admins/consultants? Programmers’ stress and headaches are specific in nature and tend to involve only one or two major problems (code won’t compile, features need to be added, etc.). Now I won’t kid you into thinking that programming will be an easier, less stressful route than consulting or administration. But you won’t have to deal with the avalanche of problems coming from nearly every corner of every building you walk into.
6: Writing
One of the biggest downfalls in the world of computer software and hardware is its documentation. Because software and hardware are ever-evolving markets, the minute you put out a book or manual, it’s out of date. That means those manuals must always be updated, renewed, refreshed. Take those skills of yours and build a brand for yourself. Write the manual for a piece of software, hardware, or protocol. Or find a blog to write for. There are millions upon millions of computer users out there, and most of them have no idea what they are doing. The world needs good writers of computer manuals and how-tos, because we know the manufacturers aren’t creating these documents.
7: Management
Not that you would ever see me working the management side of the coin, but this field is a good fit for a lot of administrators and consultants. This is especially true for consultants who have had to run their small shop or one-man show and keep the ball rolling. Those types have the necessary marketing, management, and communication skills necessary for management. But understand this: You will be trading one set of headaches for another.
8: Research and development
Companies thrive on research, and that includes tech companies. What R&D departments don’t need are people who have no idea what they are talking about. As an administrator or consultant you have been out in the trenches. You know how things do work versus how they should work. You are fully aware of the real-world needs versus the company-created needs. A voice like yours could be of incredible value to a company creating the next big thing in IT. Of course R&D tends to live only in bigger companies, so you would have to make your way though the mounds of resumes already piling up on the HR desks. Figure that out, and you might have a perfect match.

9: Cosmetology
I know, I know. This one might seem crazy on the surface, but give it a chance. First, there is an elegant mathematic to the art of hair design. I did a short stint in the field and really enjoyed it. Not only are you dealing with real people with real issues (some issues a bit bigger than others), but you see instant results when you are done. There is no sitting around and waiting for the rug to be pulled out from under you (as is inevitable in IT and consulting) no dealing with budgetary constraints or security holes, no horrific hours, and no cloud!

10: Farming
I couldn’t resist. Based on the amount of readers who truly wanted to pull way back to their “roots” and be farmers, this seemed like the perfect way to end this piece. Farming might well be one of the single most rewarding professions in the history of professions. Yes, it’s hard work, yes there is very little money to be made. But man, is it a good way to reclaim yourself. Digging in the dirt, creating the very things that sustain life… what more could you ask for? If you choose to go this route, I would highly recommend you bank a nice nest egg first, because you won’t get rich off the fat of the land. Your soul might, but your bank account? Not so much.

Taking a break
Naturally these ideas are all subjective, but everyone has a skill other than IT they can bank on. Even if it’s not the most marketable, profitable, or manageable skill known to man, you have something you can turn to when IT or consulting loses its luster. And who knows, maybe a break from the field is all you need. Go be a farmer for a few years and then, if you need to, come back to IT. Don’t worry — admin and consulting work will still be here. You’ll probably have to play a massive game of catch-up, but you’ll get back into the race more quickly than you think.

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发表于 2011-5-27 23:35:32 | 显示全部楼层
同是0213,情况差不多,一起郁闷一下! 。这两天甚至想改行学个农林的college
horizonTrip 发表于 2011-5-27 13:47


为啥想读农林的college?
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发表于 2011-5-27 23:38:23 | 显示全部楼层
楼上的童鞋,I recently wrote a string of articles discussing various reasons to leave IT - and various alternative careers for dissatisfied IT workers.
Do you have some of those articles? I really wa ...
cloud_xiao 发表于 2011-5-27 23:22


个人觉得还是尽早远离挨踢吧~
这样整天面对电脑以及长坐时间会减少,从而远离颈椎、腰椎、肩椎等问题。
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发表于 2011-5-27 23:39:36 | 显示全部楼层
楼主同学,你可以往IT方向的PROJECT MANAGER方向努力啊。
这个方向貌似对挨踢的专业基本功要求不是太高。
给自己多点时间,语言和专业知识提高后,还是有机会的。考个PMP吧,听说有用。
国内考的是否好用不知道,但如果在加拿大能用英语考下来,对做IT方面的PROJECT MANAGER帮助不小。
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发表于 2011-5-28 10:36:15 | 显示全部楼层
个人觉得还是尽早远离挨踢吧~
这样整天面对电脑以及长坐时间会减少,从而远离颈椎、腰椎、肩椎等问题。
小e 发表于 2011-5-27 23:38



珍爱生命,远离IT,呵呵
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发表于 2011-5-28 10:38:24 | 显示全部楼层
为啥想读农林的college?
小e 发表于 2011-5-27 23:35

因为我喜欢看着种子发芽、长高、开花、结果收获的过程。我家现在就种了很多花草
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发表于 2011-5-28 16:36:58 | 显示全部楼层
有情童鞋,我刚刚在太傻看了一个牛人写的在IVEY读MBA的文章,真的激情澎湃,可惜我老了,要是再年轻个7,8年我一定去试试
去college读8个月的研究生课程我觉得是个好主意,读完文凭英文叫什么?Certificate? 我在国 ...
cloud_xiao 发表于 2011-5-27 11:48

这位童鞋才30出头就喊自己老了云云,叫我这样的中老年移民怎么混呀,
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发表于 2011-5-29 22:34:11 | 显示全部楼层
因为我喜欢看着种子发芽、长高、开花、结果收获的过程。我家现在就种了很多花草
horizonTrip 发表于 2011-5-28 10:38


在国内你兴趣的这个专业叫作园艺专业。
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发表于 2011-5-29 22:37:58 | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 2011-5-29 22:51:01 | 显示全部楼层
楼主同学,你可以往IT方向的PROJECT MANAGER方向努力啊。
这个方向貌似对挨踢的专业基本功要求不是太高。
给自己多点时间,语言和专业知识提高后,还是有机会的。考个PMP吧,听说有用。
国内考的是否好用不知道,但 ...
天若有情 发表于 2011-5-27 23:39

Mark一记,俺也打算弄个证混混...

PMP国内通过率还是挺高的,不过貌似持证也不大好在加找工作,至少俺发了无数个resume应聘PM,屁都没人回一个...
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