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[政府相关] 问一个工资单的基本问题哈

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发表于 2010-12-24 05:23:20 | 显示全部楼层
除了魁省之外的其他省,那个EI不光是为了失业的时候享受的,还有生孩子的时候,享受的也是EI。

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发表于 2010-12-24 05:49:19 | 显示全部楼层
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-12-24 07:45:15 | 显示全部楼层
除了魁省之外的其他省,那个EI不光是为了失业的时候享受的,还有生孩子的时候,享受的也是EI。
papillon 发表于 2010-12-23 13:23


男性雇员为女性雇员做贡献了,不过,孩子ta爸也能用上,呵呵。

dink一族就吃点亏咯。
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发表于 2010-12-24 08:21:51 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 lamjin 于 2010-12-24 12:10 编辑
多谢lamjin,我也看了相关法例。好比bc省,工作满1年vacation pay最少相当于工资的4%,大约是2周的vacation;工作满6年,最少相当于工资的6%,大约是3周的vacation。

从大家说的来看,vacation pay其实只要雇员按 ...
FCH 发表于 2010-12-24 03:29


你那个18% 左右,是指扣除ei+cpp+ tax 的。 tax 是预扣,报税后调整,多退少补。

EI, cpp 是雇主和员工都要交,所以要从收入中扣除,税tax 雇员要交,所以从收入中扣除。
holiday pay 计算是这样, 简单的说,如果在法定假期前有两个连续的paycheck,那么holiday 这天的pay 就相当于一个普通工作日的收入,否则就少于一个普通工作日的收入。
vocation pay, wsib 是雇主交,不能从员工收入中扣除。

这里说的都是full time,非特殊行业,正常休假情况,如果在vocation或holiday 继续工作,雇主出要支付vocation Pay或holiday 的 之外,还要付额外的工资。

你朋友的情况,如果没有别的收入,第二种合适。
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-12-24 13:02:52 | 显示全部楼层
可能他不算full time?

那个18%,没有算tax,算了ei, cpp, holiday 3.5%, vacation4%, wsb(4%)
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发表于 2010-12-24 13:36:33 | 显示全部楼层
可能他不算full time?

那个18%,没有算tax,算了ei, cpp, holiday 3.5%, vacation4%, wsb(4%)
FCH 发表于 2010-12-24 13:02


这算啥?
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发表于 2010-12-24 14:40:32 | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 2010-12-24 17:16:25 | 显示全部楼层
可能他不算full time?

那个18%,没有算tax,算了ei, cpp, holiday 3.5%, vacation4%, wsb(4%)
FCH 发表于 2010-12-23 21:02
如果他是full time,老板应该扣三金(Tax、EI、CPP),如果属于容易有工伤的行业,再扣WCB,至于holiday、vacation,应该不发也不扣,而应该:
1)每年10天的holiday节日正常发工资但不须上班,如果holiday节日加班则按工时加发工资;体现到加班当期工资单上;
2)每年年假(头一年可能0周、1周、2周或3周,跟老板谈)正常发工资但不须上班,如有员工没有放年假则加发vacation pay,体现到年底的工资单上,或采用明年补休的方法而不加发钱;

如果是part time,老板也是扣三金(Tax、EI、CPP)加WCB,至于holiday应该不发也不扣,但vacation年假应按比例每期加发:
1)每年10天的holiday节日正常发工资但不须上班,如果holiday节日加班则按工时加发工资;体现到加班当期工资单上;
2)每年年假就不再放了,转而加发vacation pay(按年假长度算,比如头一年0%、2%、4%或6%),体现到每期工资单上;
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发表于 2010-12-24 21:23:56 | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 2010-12-24 22:39:51 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 lamjin 于 2010-12-24 22:46 编辑
如果他是full time,老板应该扣三金(Tax、EI、CPP),如果属于容易有工伤的行业,再扣WCB,至于holiday、vacation,应该不发也不扣,而应该:
1)每年10天的holiday节日正常发工资但不须上班,如果holiday节日加班 ...
Ruibin 发表于 2010-12-24 17:16
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闲云 发表于 2010-12-24 21:23


概念混乱。

vocation pay(年假) 不论是否full time 还是 part time, 无论是否歇这个年假,都会有。
holiday pay (法定假日), 是按工时折算。 对于full time,之前拿过两个paycheck 的,每个法定假日的工资就等于平日一天的工资。
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发表于 2010-12-24 23:57:34 | 显示全部楼层
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-12-25 02:18:30 | 显示全部楼层
这个帖子不小心成了工资大全了,呵呵,申请加精。

对BC省来说,法定的holiday pay规定(详见下面的引述):一般工作30天后就有了;

对BC生来说,法定的vacation pay规定(详见下面的引述):一般工作1年后就有了;

针对我前面提的问题,其实是老板有点耍赖了,但是除了说他没有替员工交ei, cpp(扣税好像是可以员工自己交的,只要满足条件)之外,其它很难说他错,因为他说holiday pay和vacation  pay是已经包含在时薪里了。

其实我最想知道的就是,如果一个招聘广告说时薪10元,通常来说,它是否包含了holiday pay和vacation pay。


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BC省的holiday pay规定,摘自:http://www.labour.gov.bc.ca/esb/facshts/statutory_holidays.htm

Statutory Holidays in British Columbia Factsheet                        
                                        The nine statutory holidays in British Columbia are:
                        
                                 
  • New Years Day
  • Good Friday
  • Victoria Day
  • Canada Day
  • B.C. Day
  • Labour Day
  • Thanksgiving Day
  • Remembrance Day
  • Christmas Day
                                 
                                    
Easter Sunday, Easter Monday and Boxing Day are not statutory holidays. Follow this link for a list of B.C. statutory holiday dates for 2008-2011.                                    
                                    

Eligibility
                 To be eligible for statutory holiday pay an employee must:
                        
                                 
  •                                       
    Have been employed for 30 calendar days before the statutory holiday and,
  • Have worked or earned wages on 15 of the 30 days immediately before the statutory holiday.
                                 
                                    Employees who work under an averaging agreement or variance at any time in the 30 days before the holiday do not have to meet the 15-day requirement.
                                 

No pay for ineligible employees
                                                                      An employee who is not eligible for statutory holiday pay  is not entitled to be paid an average day’s pay. If an ineligible employee  works on a statutory holiday he or she may be paid as if it were a regular work  day.                                   
                                 

Exclusions
                                                                      Specific regulations exclude certain groups such as  managers, agriculture workers, some commission salespersons, and high  technology professionals from the statutory holiday provisions of the Act.  Please see the factsheets relating to these groups.
                                 

Statutory holiday on a day off
                                                                      When an  employee is given a day off on a statutory holiday, or it falls on a regular  day off, an eligible employee is entitled to be paid an average day’s pay.
                                                                      An average day’s pay is calculated by dividing “total  wages” earned in the 30 calendar days before the statutory holiday by the  number of days worked. Vacation days taken during this period count as days  worked.
                                  “Total wages” includes wages, commissions, statutory  holiday pay and vacation pay but does not include overtime pay.
                                 

Working on a statutory  holiday
                                                                      An  eligible employee who works on a statutory holiday is entitled to be paid:
                                 
    • time-and-a-half for the       first 12 hours worked and double-time for any work over 12 hours; plus
    • an average day’s pay.
                                 

Substituting statutory holidays
                                                                      An  employer and a majority of employees can agree to substitute another day off  for a statutory holiday. The Act and Regulation apply to the substitute day as  if it were the statutory holiday.
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-12-25 02:19:25 | 显示全部楼层
BC省的vacation pay规定,摘自:http://www.labour.gov.bc.ca/esb/facshts/annualfact.htm

Annual Vacation

The Employment Standards Act provides that employees are entitled to take time off for annual vacation and to be paid vacation pay.

Eligibility

Employees who are employed for five calendar days or less are not entitled to be paid annual vacation pay. Vacation pay for farm workers who are paid a piece-rate for harvesting is included in the piece rates. All other employees earn vacation pay on all wages earned from the first day of employment.

After being employed for 12 months, an employee becomes entitled to receive an annual vacation.

If an employer agrees to give an employee more vacation or vacation pay than the Act requires, the Employment Standards Branch can enforce this agreement.

An employer cannot reduce an employee’s annual vacation or vacation pay because the employee was paid a bonus or sick pay or was previously given a vacation longer than the minimum.

Annual vacation entitlement

During the first year of employment, an employee earns vacation time to be taken in the second year of employment. After completing twelve months of employment, an employee has earned two weeks of annual vacation to be taken in the following year. This means that starting in the second year, an employee is entitled to take the vacation earned in the year before.

After completing five years of employment, an employee becomes entitled to three weeks of annual vacation.

An employee is entitled to take his or her annual vacation within twelve months after it is earned.

An employee may make a written request for an annual vacation before becoming entitled to one. If the employer agrees, this vacation time taken “in advance” reduces the amount of vacation time remaining when the employee becomes entitled to a vacation.

Scheduling vacations
An employer must schedule an employee’s annual vacation in periods of one or more weeks unless the employee requests a shorter period.

An employer has the right to schedule vacations according to business requirements as long as the employer ensures that an employee receives a vacation within twelve months after becoming entitled to it.

If a statutory holiday occurs during a vacation, an employee who qualifies for the statutory holiday is entitled to be paid statutory holiday pay for that day. The employee, however, is not entitled to an additional day off.

The Act does not permit an employee to forego an annual vacation and only receive the vacation pay.  Employers are required to ensure that employees:

    * Take time off for their annual vacation; and
    * Receive their vacation pay.

Vacation pay

When an employee takes an annual vacation earned in the previous year of employment, the employer must pay vacation pay of at least four per cent of all wages paid to the employee in that previous year.

Any vacation pay received by an employee becomes part of the total wages paid in that year.

Vacation pay is payable at least seven days before the start of the annual vacation.

If agreed to in writing by the employer and the employee, vacation pay may be paid on every cheque.

After the employee completes five years of employment, the employer must pay vacation pay of at least six per cent of all wages earned in the previous year.

Upon termination of employment, an employee must be paid all outstanding vacation pay with the final paycheque.

Employer Records

The employer’s payroll records must indicate the dates of the annual vacation taken by the employee, the amounts paid by the employer and the days and amounts owing.

The amount of vacation pay paid must be indicated on the employee’s pay statement.

Leaves and jury duty

The length of service of an employee on an approved leave under the Act is deemed to be uninterrupted for the purposes of calculating annual vacation entitlement.

Sale or transfer of a business

The sale, lease or transfer of a business does not affect the length of service of an employee who was still employed by the business at the time of the disposition.

Commission sales

Employees who are paid by commission must take annual vacation and receive vacation pay the same as other employees. Vacation pay cannot be incorporated into the commission rate. Commissions which become payable during an employee’s annual vacation do not become vacation pay. Vacation pay must be paid on all commissions earned.

Examples:

    * Robyn starts a new job on March 1, 2008. She completes her first year of work on February 28, 2009 and becomes entitled to take an annual vacation. Her employer must grant Robyn a vacation no later than February 28, 2010.

When Robyn takes a two week vacation in July 2009, her employer pays her 4% of her gross earnings from the period March 1, 2008 – February 28, 2009 for vacation pay. Since Robyn is not working during those two weeks, she does not receive any regular wages. This vacation pay amount becomes part of her gross wages for the year from March 1, 2009 – February 28, 2010.

    * Sam quits his job after working for three months. His final paycheque includes 4% vacation pay on all wages earned from his first day of employment.
    * Sue starts work on July 2, 2008. On January 31, 2009 she makes a written request to take a vacation “in advance”. The employer agrees. Sue takes one week off in March of 2009. Her first year of employment ends on July 1, 2009, and she becomes eligible to take the vacation she earned in that year. Sue has one week of vacation left to take.
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发表于 2010-12-25 03:31:52 | 显示全部楼层
这个帖子不小心成了工资大全了,呵呵,申请加精。

对BC省来说,法定的holiday pay规定(详见下面的引述):一般工作30天后就有了;

对BC生来说,法定的vacation pay规定(详见下面的引述):一般工作1年后 ...

针对我前面提的问题,其实是老板有点耍赖了,但是除了说他没有替员工交ei, cpp(扣税好像是可以员工自己交的,只要满足条件)之外,其它很难说他错,因为他说holiday pay和vacation  pay是已经包含在时薪里了。

其实我最想知道的就是,如果一个招聘广告说时薪10元,通常来说,它是否包含了holiday pay和vacation pay。
FCH 发表于 2010-12-25 02:18


所谓holiday pay和vacation pay 就是你那些日子不上班,雇主仍旧按每小时10刀发钱给你,你说谁出这钱?
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-12-25 04:17:33 | 显示全部楼层
所谓holiday pay和vacation pay 就是你那些日子不上班,雇主仍旧按每小时10刀发钱给你,你说谁出这钱?
lamjin 发表于 2010-12-24 11:31


前面说的那个朋友的老板说,10元里已经包括了vacation和holiday pay,如果要得到这个不上班日子也能得到的收入,就得把时薪减少,到最后还是一笔数。

很明显他是耍了把戏,但是如果没有清清楚楚地写在合同里,在这点上,你也很难说他错。他可以说那个10元底薪就是包括了vacation pay和holiday pay了。或许可以争论的是:其实vacation pay和holiday pay都是在一定时间后才能得到的,那么,在刚入职的时候的底薪应该是不包含vacation pay和holiday pay在内的。不过,要跟他争论的话,或许就得准备好换工作了。

另外,加拿大对full time和part time有什么具体规定吗?
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发表于 2010-12-25 04:42:25 | 显示全部楼层
前面说的那个朋友的老板说,10元里已经包括了vacation和holiday pay,如果要得到这个不上班日子也能得到的收入,就得把时薪减少,到最后还是一笔数。

很明显他是耍了把戏,但是如果没有清清楚楚地写在合同里,在 ...
FCH 发表于 2010-12-25 04:17

没有那个老板的解释的说法。
其实那个老板给的是两个选择,一个是相当于 self-employee,就是每小时10刀,其他自理。第二选择,如果想当employee,每小时给不到10刀。 正常的情况下,作为普通雇员,每小时10刀,乘以工作时间就是收入。 至于EI,cpp,由于雇主替你交一部分,你自己交一部分,所以才会从你收入中扣。 至于vocation pay 和 holiday pay,法律上明确写了 employer 支付,其实质就是等同于你那些天在工作, 至于多少和资格会有一定要求。 vocation pay 是你每张Paycheck  x 4%,从一开始就有。 对于不够30天的,holiday pay 是按比例付 。

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发表于 2010-12-25 06:17:19 | 显示全部楼层
概念混乱。

vocation pay(年假) 不论是否full time 还是 part time, 无论是否歇这个年假,都会有。
holiday pay (法定假日), 是按工时折算。 对于full time,之前拿过两个paycheck 的,每个法定假日的工资就等于平日一天的工资。lamjin 发表于 2010-12-24 06:39
OK 摆谱你是老大!

不过。。。

holiday pay你再看看,你说的跟我说的是同一回事:你的“每个法定假日的工资就等于平日一天的工资”=我的“不用上班工资照发”;

vocation pay,如果是part time工,你是老板的话怎么给part-time员工“放年假”?哪个老板会给year-long vacation pay?务实的做法就是将 4% VP 反映到每期工资单,跟实际工作时间挂钩。
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发表于 2010-12-26 01:51:26 | 显示全部楼层
OK 摆谱你是老大!

不过。。。

holiday pay你再看看,你说的跟我说的是同一回事:你的“每个法定假日的工资就等于平日一天的工资”=我的“不用上班工资照发”;

vocation pay,如果是part time工 ...
Ruibin 发表于 2010-12-25 06:17


只是有的说的不是很清楚。
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发表于 2010-12-26 11:37:37 | 显示全部楼层
我做的是agent的工,也就是说老板是agent,我的每一期工资里都会另外有vocation pay,但是没有holiday pay;会扣除CPP\EI\TAX.
平时休假,没有薪水,包括圣诞节放假也是没有钱的
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发表于 2010-12-26 11:46:02 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 lamjin 于 2010-12-26 12:22 编辑
我做的是agent的工,也就是说老板是agent,我的每一期工资里都会另外有vocation pay,但是没有holiday pay;会扣除CPP\EI\TAX.
平时休假,没有薪水,包括圣诞节放假也是没有钱的 ...
wosummer 发表于 2010-12-26 11:37


你确定?  你把pay stub 上的项目列一下。 看看你以前的工资单,包含法定假日的工资单,有没有个叫stat 什么的项目。
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