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玫瑰金

安抚下荷叶～
关于风景的问题，网上美丽的图片就算不是风景区的，也是温哥华蒙城的，卡城本身真没什么风景的。当然离最美丽的班芙很近，俺很羡慕。
还有个人信息的问题，除了小鸟说的联想之外，还有各人有不同的耐受度。有的人在单位打电话说家事跟老公吵架都觉得无所谓，有的人连自己的老家在哪都觉得是隐私——没什么对不对，只是各人性格和价值取向不同。网上交流，还是尽量互相理解吧

lotusleaf

安抚下荷叶～
关于风景的问题，网上美丽的图片就算不是风景区的，也是温哥华蒙城的，卡城本身真没什么风景的。当然离最美丽的班芙很近，俺很羡慕。
还有个人信息的问题，除了小鸟说的联想之外，还有各人有不同的耐受 ...
玫瑰金 发表于 2009-12-24 02:27

                               
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得把西西揪出来了。。。。。。。。。。。 西西的卡尔加里广告片可真是拍的美轮美奂啊！话又说回来，风景不能当饭吃，只要有工作，那儿都行。。。。。

未飘落的雪

找到一个适合的工作，就心安了

那时枫叶

某C的广告片确实。。。引人入胜啊。。。

lotusleaf

More people leaving Alta than moving in for 1st time in 15 years: Stats Canada

CALGARY - Saddled with dwindling employment and shrinking energy prices, Alberta seems to be losing its status as the promised land for job-seekers from across Canada.

For more than a decade the province's resource-rich economy has drawn in hundreds of thousands of people from Saskatchewan, Newfoundland and Labrador and elsewhere.

But Statistics Canada's third-quarter population estimate for 2009 shows more people left Alberta for other provinces than moved in.

That's the first time that has happened since 1994.

Douglas Porter, deputy chief economist with the Bank of Montreal, says the province was pulling in almost 50,000 people a year from other provinces at the height of the energy boom .

"It is an amazing turnaround from as recently as three years ago when, on average, we were seeing about 12,000 or 13,000 net new migrants (per quarter) into Alberta from the rest of the country," he said Wednesday.

The culprit is probably a rising unemployment rate that's the result of tumbling energy prices, Porter said.

For example, Saskatchewan's unemployment rate was consistently higher than Alberta's several years ago but is now two percentage points lower.

"The relative attractiveness of Alberta has at least temporarily waned."

Todd Hirsch, a senior economist with ATB Financial, said in a daily economic note that the change is a result of a recession that could have left many people who came to the province from elsewhere suddenly unemployed.

"Because so much of Alberta's labour force arrived over the past few years from other provinces, it is logical that job-seekers may decide to return home if they find themselves out of work in Alberta."

Marion Hayes, who owns Pazzer's Saskatchewan Pub in Calgary, said she's been hearing here and there of people who are moving back home - or making the move for the first time.

The former Saskatchewan resident said the cost of living is still high in Alberta compared to elsewhere and there's not as many job opportunities.

"It's not as rosy as it was when I moved here in 2000," she said.

Many people are feeling the pinch, but most people who come into the pub seem so far to be willing to ride out the recession, she said.

"I hope it doesn't get worse, because that's just a sign the economy isn't picking up and people are getting tired of waiting."

Saskatoon real estate agent Terry Alm said he's definitely seeing more people from Alberta looking for homes than even a year ago. Many seem to be lured to the province by jobs in mining or construction, he said.

It's also not uncommon to see men coming out alone to work while their families stay behind, he added.

"What I'm seeing quite a bit of right now is the husband coming out of Calgary and his wife and family staying there."

Porter said it's unlikely the trend of people leaving Alberta will continue for too long because the energy sector has seen some recent gains that will probably lead to a revival of jobs.

Alberta's unemployment soared during the global recession, but it has shown recent signs of recovery. The province's employment rose by 13,000 in November, the biggest gain in more than a year.

Porter predicted it might not bounce back immediately, so it might be a couple of years before people start flowing back.

"(The energy sector) is definitely going through a heavy-duty adjustment now because of the decline in prices from the peak, but we believe over time it will continue to act as a magnet for investment and for people."

In the meantime, there's no need to worry about a suddenly shrinking Alberta - thanks to births and immigration from other parts of the world, the province's population still grew more than the national average over the quarter, according to Statistics Canada.

It's still the third-fastest growing province, behind only British Columbia and Saskatchewan.

lotusleaf

某C的广告片确实。。。引人入胜啊。。。
非娜 发表于 2009-12-24 11:18

                               
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就算是为了打假，你也一定要来啊！我一个人的力量太单薄。

那时枫叶

乖乖，到底是加拿大人，看英文都能看这么长一段了。。。小的佩服，看完我眼睛都要瞎了。。。

那时枫叶

昨儿个过平安夜，遇到个老外，母女俩，居然是来自蒙吹儿的，我心头暗喜，跟她俩聊了二句，想套套蒙吹儿的经济情况、政治情况、民生情况，结果她们只跟我聊中国的事，给我郁闷的。。。

未飘落的雪

哈喜欢中国的蒙吹儿人

dongma

荷叶发的英语的新闻在Metro报纸上看见了,报纸上的题目是:People fleeing Alberta,是的,连Safeway ,Co-op,Superstore 的工作都找不到了,所以希望将要来的人注意,另外政府的读英语的funding 也不好申请了,上学学专业的学费和生活费也定不下来到底有没有了.听说有可能削减两年。
要是这样的话,就要考虑来不来的问题.当然有钱人除外。可是假如能有个工作，生存还是没有问题的。如：一个老乡在读ESL,拿着政府的funding,每月１４００元，孩子牛奶金２８０元，每月打工再有几白元的收入，她的房租是７５０元，加上娘俩的生活费３００，是花不了的，这不，要买车。可现在政策变了，政府没有钱了，一切都变得不容易了。

dongma

某C的广告片确实。。。引人入胜啊。。。
非娜 发表于 2009-12-24 11:18

                               
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这个照片也是真的,有的地方比照片还要漂亮,也是真的,房子四周都是花,丁香花颜色鲜艳,要开很久的,不能因为冬天而否定夏天的美.爬泰山很多次了,春天夏天秋天美景各不同,每一次都有新发现.另外,如读文学作品,各人有各人的哈姆雷特.
我们该有开放宽容的心，不要动不动生气！年龄都不小了。

lotusleaf

这个照片也是真的,有的地方比照片还要漂亮,也是真的,房子四周都是花,丁香花颜色鲜艳,要开很久的,不能因为冬天而否定夏天的美.爬泰山很多次了,春天夏天秋天美景各不同,每一次都有新发现.另外,如读文学作品,各人有各 ...
dongma 发表于 2009-12-26 04:40

                               
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早就没生气了哈，东妈。而且，我生气不是因为某人说加拿大好还是不好，而是你说话的方式和态度。你说得对，每个人都应该有开放的态度，我貌似没有因为谁说加拿大好就攻击谁啊，相反，我很欢迎大家多说加拿大的好，给我鼓励，这也是我发此贴的目的之一。

我只是目前这个时期，说了一些加拿大的不够好的地方，而这些是超出我原来的美好想象的，好像是你不大能接受，攻击我读书读傻了什么的，呵呵。。。不管怎么说，这大概是个人说话方式不同吧。祝你新年快乐！

CICI

得把西西揪出来了。。。。。。。。。。。 西西的卡尔加里广告片可真是拍的美轮美奂啊！话又说回来，风景不能当饭吃，只要有工作，那儿都行。。。。。 ...
lotusleaf 发表于 2009-12-24 03:00

                               
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记住了，俺以后再发广告片的时候一定注明“风景不能当饭吃，如有贪念风景而导致饿肚者，本人概不负责！”

未飘落的雪

记住了，俺以后再发广告片的时候一定注明“风景不能当饭吃，如有贪念风景而导致饿肚者，本人概不负责！”
CICI 发表于 2009-12-26 10:40

                               
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强

dongma

我没有不能接受说卡城的不好,好与不好,与我何干?下雪了,我也看见了雪泥了,可这雪泥,在哪里也不可能是白的。可俺也看到了树上的雪，白得很漂亮。正是圣诞，外面的彩灯也无颜六色，很多的人家家门口有漂亮的灯雕，有的人家还把自己家的房子用灯装饰起来。
我只是觉得人应该现实一些。读书读傻了是攻击吗？不闹着玩吗？天要那么冷，不知道找个避风的地方，不是傻是什么？一口一个Labou，在超市打工就不行了，劳动光荣，何况当地人不也这么干吗？其实，Safeway  Co-op都是上市的大的零销商，福利待遇也还可以。
在国内当了教授就不能干别的了？何况还是那么小的学校。所以先生存，再谋求发展。
当然你有你的困难，那是另当别论，还真没有有意透露你的单位，你的单位太大了，光学校有多少？
当然还有更悲观的想法，也就是上了２年学，也不是有专业工作在那里等着，所以你家里的那口子的担忧是有道理的。
这么说你不会再生气吧？你正处于困难时期，不能帮你是不会让你烦心的，我们只是在探讨去与留的优与劣的问题。

dongma

卡城１５年来第一次走的人多于来的人，上学也不容易了，政府没有钱了，他们是小政府，就是多雇几个警察也要提高房产税，如老百姓不同意，也没门。People Fleeing Alberta.呵。。。人们逃离阿省！很形象

CICI

其实俺心里一直非常感谢荷叶，她一个人带着孩子勇闯卡尔加里，又及时的发来前方的战报，好的不好的都说出来（不象有的筒子为了面子报喜不报忧），为我们这些尚在后方的兄弟姐妹们描述了一个真实的卡尔加里，真实生活中将会遇到的种种困难，当然也有幸福和感动，不象某C的广告片里只看到美伦美涣的风景，一点都不考虑肚子问题。

dongma

报纸里用了culprit来形容走的人，逃犯？原文是这样的：The culprit is probably a rising unemployment rate that's the  result of tumbling energy prices, Porter said.其实有经验的老移民，在找到专业工作的时候，还保留Part time的活，因为，这样的单位基本不辞退人。有的每星期就干几个小时。当时我劝你时，正是进这样单位的好时候，所以，你对这样的善意的提醒该说声谢谢！当然，分手的时候，也该说再见！对吗？

dongma

It's also not uncommon to see men coming out alone to work while their families stay behind, he added.

"What I'm seeing quite a bit of right now is the husband coming out of Calgary and his wife and family staying there."

Porter said it's unlikely the trend of people leaving Alberta will continue for too long because the energy sector has seen some recent gains that will probably lead to a revival of jobs.

Alberta's unemployment soared during the global recession, but it has shown recent signs of recovery. The province's employment rose by 13,000 in November, the biggest gain in more than a year.

Porter predicted it might not bounce back immediately, so it might be a couple of years before people start flowing back.

dongma

根据上面这段话看来有人留在大后方还是可取和明智的，也不是偶然现象，１１月阿省有１３０００人失业，虽然有恢复的迹象，但阿省的失业在全球性的衰退中飙升，但人们离开的这种势头也不大可能持续很久，因为能源部门已经在最近增加了，这将会导致工作的复苏。但Porter预言它也不可能马上反弹，所以有可能需要几年，人们才可能开始回流。
这个分析，还是客观的，也是符合实际的。