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发表于 2007-6-25 13:43:58 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
销售支持或商务支持应该用哪个NOC呢?请同一职位的移友跟帖给个建议,或通过邮件多多沟通,我的email: beijingexcellent@hotmail.com
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看看这个适不适合你



6421








Retail Salespersons and Sales Clerks


Retail salespersons and sales clerks sell, rent or lease a range of technical and non-technical goods and services directly to consumers. They are employed by stores and other retail businesses, as well as wholesale businesses that sell on a retail basis to the public.

Example Titles

audio equipment salesperson
automobile salesperson
car rental agent
clothing salesperson
computer salesperson – retail
counter clerk – retail
department store clerk
furniture salesperson
hardware store clerk
jewellery salesperson
retail sales associate
retail sales clerk
retail salesperson

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Main duties


    Retail salespersons and sales clerks perform some or all of the following duties:

    • Greet customers and discuss type, quality and quantity of merchandise or services sought for purchase, rental or lease
    • Advise customers on use and care of merchandise, and provide advice concerning specialized products or services
    • Estimate or quote prices, credit terms, trade-in allowances, warranties and delivery dates
    • Prepare merchandise for purchase, rental or lease
    • Prepare sales, rental or leasing contracts and accept cash, cheque, credit card or automatic debit payment
    • Assist in display of merchandise
    • Maintain sales records for inventory control
    • Operate computerized inventory record keeping and re-ordering systems
    • May conduct sales transactions through Internet-based electronic commerce.
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    发表于 2007-6-25 14:26:28 | 显示全部楼层

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    我现在电脑里没有参照表格, 但记忆中6421是属于SKILL C类, 不能加分.
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     楼主| 发表于 2007-6-26 11:03:47 | 显示全部楼层

    回复: 销售支持或商务支持应该用哪个NOC呢?请同一职位的移友跟帖给个建议

    Ruibin推荐6221 Technical Sales Specialists – Wholesale Trade,但我查了一下,还是有一些不符,有同一类的移友吗?请给个建议,急。。。
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    发表于 2007-6-26 12:09:56 | 显示全部楼层

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    Post by stellagn;666993
    销售支持或商务支持应该用哪个NOC呢?请同一职位的移友跟帖给个建议,或通过邮件多多沟通,我的email: beijingexcellent@hotmail.com

    严格说销售支持和商务支持在NOC中都找不到十分匹配的定位,楼主就不要费力了~

    在这种情况下,可以考虑楼上的建议--销售一般都采用这个定位,有点差别也无妨,参考官方描述,根据自己实际工作情况完善职业描述即可~

    另外,亦可以考虑Business Consultant等等...

    如果可以,请楼主写明自己的详细工作内容,大家也好帮你参谋~
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     楼主| 发表于 2007-6-26 13:33:57 | 显示全部楼层

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    谢谢Andy, 我工作的主要内容是销售的售后商务支持,比如说商务合同的拟定与谈判,对订单进行审核后下订单到工厂进行排产,与客户沟通付款,出货及到货通知等,与1215的logistic supervisor有一点接近但又有一些不同,我并不负责与货代的租仓订航线,但也不同于销售,我只负责销售签单后的合同执行的相关事务。真是难啊。。。盼复,知情人请帮忙啊。。。
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    发表于 2007-6-26 15:37:18 | 显示全部楼层

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    6221



    Technical Sales Specialists – Wholesale Trade

    Example Titles

    aircraft sales representative
    communication equipment sales representative
    construction equipment sales representative
    electricity sales representative
    heavy equipment sales representative
    industrial supplies sales representative
    medical instruments sales agent
    sales engineer, technical support
    software sales representative
    technical sales representative
    technical sales supervisor
    technical support specialist

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    Main duties


      Technical sales specialists perform some or all of the following duties:

      • Promote sales to existing clients
      • Identify and solicit potential clients
      • Assess clients' needs and resources and recommend the appropriate goods or services
      • Provide input into product design where goods or services must be tailored to suit clients' needs
      • Develop reports and proposals as part of sales presentation to illustrate benefits from use of good or service
      • Estimate costs of installing and maintaining equipment or service
      • Prepare and administer sales contracts
      • Consult with clients after sale to resolve problems and to provide ongoing support
      • Troubleshoot technical problems related to equipment
      • May train customers' staff in the operation and maintenance of equipment
      • May conduct sales transactions through Internet-based electronic commerce
      • May supervise the activities of other technical sales specialists.
      Technical sales specialists usually specialize in a particular line of goods or services.

      根据你的描述,可以考虑采用以上职业定位,同你的工作内容基本吻合~而且属于可以加分的职业~
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       楼主| 发表于 2007-6-27 10:34:33 | 显示全部楼层

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      Post by andy_yang;668200


      6221



      Technical Sales Specialists – Wholesale Trade

      Example Titles

      aircraft sales representative
      communication equipment sales representative
      construction equipment sales representative
      electricity sales representative
      heavy equipment sales representative
      industrial supplies sales representative
      medical instruments sales agent
      sales engineer, technical support
      software sales representative
      technical sales representative
      technical sales supervisor
      technical support specialist

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      Main duties

      Technical sales specialists perform some or all of the following duties:

      • Promote sales to existing clients
      • Identify and solicit potential clients
      • Assess clients' needs and resources and recommend the appropriate goods or services
      • Provide input into product design where goods or services must be tailored to suit clients' needs
      • Develop reports and proposals as part of sales presentation to illustrate benefits from use of good or service
      • Estimate costs of installing and maintaining equipment or service
      • Prepare and administer sales contracts
      • Consult with clients after sale to resolve problems and to provide ongoing support
      • Troubleshoot technical problems related to equipment
      • May train customers' staff in the operation and maintenance of equipment
      • May conduct sales transactions through Internet-based electronic commerce
      • May supervise the activities of other technical sales specialists.
      Technical sales specialists usually specialize in a particular line of goods or services.

      根据你的描述,可以考虑采用以上职业定位,同你的工作内容基本吻合~而且属于可以加分的职业~
      谢谢,可是就工作性质而言,1215好像更合适,但我的名片的title是commercial supervisor.我不知道如果用了1215的logistics supervisor以后的工作证明如何做。 请给个方向。。。

      1215

      Supervisors, Recording, Distributing and Scheduling Occupations


      Supervisors in this unit group supervise and co-ordinate the activities of workers in the following unit groups: Shippers and Receivers (1471), Storekeepers and Parts Clerks (1472), Production Clerks (1473), Purchasing and Inventory Clerks (1474), Dispatchers and Radio Operators (1475) and Transportation Route and Crew Schedulers (1476). They are employed throughout the private and public sectors.

      Example Titles

      dispatch logistician
      flight crew scheduling supervisor
      freight forwarding logistician
      head dispatcher
      head shipper
      inventory control supervisor
      logistics supervisor – transportation
      parts service supervisor
      production clerks supervisor
      ramp services supervisor – airport
      stock control supervisor
      supervisor, receiving
      supply control co-ordinator

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      Main duties


        Supervisors in this unit group perform some or all of the following duties:

        • Co-ordinate, assign and review the work of clerks engaged in the following duties: shipping, receiving, storing, distributing and maintaining inventories of materials, parts and products; processing purchasing transactions; co-ordinating production work; dispatching crews; scheduling transportation crews and routes; operating airport ramp servicing vehicles; and other related activities
        • Establish work schedules and procedures and co-ordinate activities with other work units or departments
        • Resolve work-related problems and prepare and submit progress and other reports
        • Train workers in job duties, safety procedures and company policies
        • Requisition supplies and materials
        • Ensure smooth operation of computer systems, equipment and machinery and arrange for maintenance and repair work
        • May perform the same duties as workers supervised.
        Employment requirements



        • Completion of secondary school is usually required.
        • Several years of experience in the occupation supervised are usually required.
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        发表于 2007-6-27 11:10:14 | 显示全部楼层

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        先休息几天吧,似乎钻进去不肯出来了~~~

        过几天再看,理解又不同了,判断会准确点。
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        发表于 2007-6-27 11:13:24 | 显示全部楼层

        回复: 销售支持或商务支持应该用哪个NOC呢?请同一职位的移友跟帖给个建议

        对于你的实际工作内容和职责,我想还是你本人最清楚,所以,NOC的选择,大家可以为你提供建议,最后的决定还是要你自己做的,如果你觉得1215更加符合你的工作实际的话,那就选择1215也没问题的,都是属于可加分的职业。

        我不知道如果用了1215的logistics supervisor以后的工作证明如何做。

        工作证明这块该怎么做就怎么做,对劳动合同进行公证,请你的上司为你开具推荐信,推荐信上面的内容尽量同你选定的职业定位保持一致即可。
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         楼主| 发表于 2007-6-27 16:59:59 | 显示全部楼层

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        谢谢,

        可能真的像Ruibin说的掉进去出不来了,我想要一个最精确的,因为从事我这种职业的大有人在,鸣鸣。。。好吧,休息几天,七月份再努力。也请知情的移友们不吝赐教。。。
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        发表于 2007-7-30 21:59:51 | 显示全部楼层

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        我觉得contract  manager可能比较适合。






        0113







        Purchasing Managers


        Purchasing managers plan, organize, direct, control and evaluate the activities of a purchasing department and develop and implement the purchasing policies of a business or institution. They are employed throughout the public and private sectors.

        Example Titles

        contract manager
        director, procurement operations
        director, purchasing
        food purchasing manager
        manager, purchasing contracts
        material manager
        purchasing manager

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        Main duties


          Purchasing managers perform some or all of the following duties:

          • Plan, organize, direct, control and evaluate the purchasing activities of an establishment
          • Develop purchasing policies and procedures and control purchasing department budget
          • Identify vendors of materials, equipment or supplies
          • Evaluate cost and quality of goods or services
          • Negotiate or oversee the negotiation of purchase contracts
          • Participate in the development of specifications for equipment, products or substitute materials
          • Review and process claims against suppliers
          • Interview, hire and oversee training of staff.
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           楼主| 发表于 2007-7-31 16:39:08 | 显示全部楼层

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          谢谢,但正好相反,非但不是purchasing, 而是Selling.我准备用1215了,但是用logistics supervisor, head shipper还是supervisor -- shipping and receiving我还没有最后定下来。周五之前上传我的资料给大家希望帮我再把把关,下周就递北京。谢谢大家一直以来给我的帮助,在移民的路上感谢有你们相伴相随。
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          发表于 2007-7-31 16:49:36 | 显示全部楼层

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          等着你的料~
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          发表于 2007-8-13 12:41:47 | 显示全部楼层

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          how about 6221, Technical Sales Specialists
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          发表于 2007-8-13 14:33:52 | 显示全部楼层

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          先休息几天吧,似乎钻进去不肯出来了~~~

          过几天再看,理解又不同了,判断会准确点。
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          发表于 2007-8-13 14:43:44 | 显示全部楼层

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          确实是,我觉得有时候有必要把employment requirment 好好看看
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          发表于 2007-8-15 18:00:32 | 显示全部楼层

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          我的职业情况和你相似,大家帮忙定位一下,谢谢!
          下面是我的duty:
          Using the adequate sources, tools as well as applicable standards for project and sales execution.
          Dimensions of Function
          Report to CFO of BCNC
          Contacts (internal / external)
          Internal:
          Sales, Project Managers, I&S Commercial Manager,BCNC Management
          External:
          Customers
          Areas of Responsibility / Tasks
          Follow the set standards for commercial projects
          Adherence to all internal and external financial and reporting rules
          Adherence to quality standards and international audit requirements
          Participitation in contract negotiations with customers
          Fixed Asset Management and related issues
          Overhead cost control and analysis
          Business report preparation according to the defined requirements by using the adequate sources and tools
          Sales distribution for Cost Center
          Payment Handling for Cost Center handling
          Cost Center controlling including actual/plan comparison
          Realize volume-, cost- and profit- budgets for the BG by using professional tools of business administration
          Risk Management
          Export Control
          Competencies
          Techniques (Technologies / Methodologies / Professional Knowledge)
          Accounting Principles
          Commercial Project Management
          Controlling
          Contract Management
          Financing
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           楼主| 发表于 2007-10-31 17:03:05 | 显示全部楼层

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          Post by greecanada;702917
          等着你的料~
          真不好意思,一直忙,今天才上网到坛子里,材料还在手上,没有下最后的决心。不过不准备过了十一月了,我已经准备了太久了,都有心找中介了。下周再上料吧。又得去忙了。
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          发表于 2007-10-31 19:17:30 | 显示全部楼层

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          Post by stellagn;667806
          Ruibin推荐6221 Technical Sales Specialists – Wholesale Trade,但我查了一下,还是有一些不符,有同一类的移友吗?请给个建议,急。。。

          我就是这个,因为我是做电子类产品的销售的,这个是最合适的, 不知道楼主是?
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