看看这程度的差别

lamjin

多伦多市长只因为3000块钱的事，就被人告倒。这在国内简直就不是事。在国内也很难想象，法官会因为这3000 块钱，竟然让市长输官司，市长已经被暂停职务。加拿大还是民主呀。

Mayor Rob Ford broke conflict of interest rules and will be removed from office, a judge ruled this morning.

The case revolved around Ford participating in a city council vote last February about questionable donations to his private football charity.

Ford is accused of violating the municipal Conflict of Interest Act when he voted on whether he should pay back over $3,000 in donations to his charity, which he allegedly solicited when he was a councillor.

Ontario Superior Court Justice Charles Hackland issued his highly anticipated ruling at 10 a.m. Monday, more than two months after the mayor’s trial finished.

Ford has argued that he did not know he was in conflict of interest.

The allegations stem from a speech and council vote on Feb. 7 to strike down a recommendation that he repay more than $3,000 in donations for his private football foundation. The funds were solicited using the official city letterhead and the time of city staffers.

Ford admitted that at the time, he didn't think he had violated any rules when he used his staff in 2010 to help him stuff envelopes and address them to potential donors, some of whom were lobbyists who often did business with the city.

He added that the envelopes and stationery had been paid with his personal account.

But the city's integrity commissioner, Janet Leiper, found Ford's actions broke the conduct code for councillors.

She recommended Ford pay back $3,150 to the donors.

Council adopted the commissioner's findings and sanction in a resolution Ford voted against, but he never made the repayments, despite six reminders from the commissioner.

Ford testified that following the commissioner's decision, he sent letters to the 11 donors offering to pay their money back.

Some had refused the reimbursement, while others did not respond, he said.

There’s no word yet if Ford plans to appeal the decision.

bondy

官不聊生，逼官造反。

lamjin

安省伦敦市长也是因为借点公款，而且都还回去了，还被警察调查呢。 简直是官不聊生呀。

austral-asian

这个案例的确体现了西方政治的民主，透明，这里的政府部门真的是清水衙门。不过水至清则无鱼，真正百分之百的清廉我看也是不存在的。

Ruibin

这个多市市长上台后就一直招小人嫉妒啊。

lamjin

这个案例的确体现了西方政治的民主，透明，这里的政府部门真的是清水衙门。不过水至清则无鱼，真正百分之百的清廉我看也是不存在的。
austral-asian 发表于 2012-11-27 02:55

                               
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这里没有衙门。

政府部门的官员，只是一份工作job， 就像公司的里一个职位。 议员也是，就是个年薪10几万的一个职位。能获得这个职位的人，不是领导的提拔，而是选民的选举。

austral-asian

这个多市市长上台后就一直招小人嫉妒啊。
Ruibin 发表于 2012-11-27 03:14

                               
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他长得胖性格又比较张扬，我觉得人的本性对于胖zi还是不怎么宽容，喜欢挑他毛病的人满多的。

lamjin

他长得胖性格又比较张扬，我觉得人的本性对于胖zi还是不怎么宽容，喜欢挑他毛病的人满多的。
austral-asian 发表于 2012-11-27 05:01

                               
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没说到点上， 是因为他的紧缩政策，导致一些人不喜欢他，因为他的紧缩政策，会触及到一些人利益。  但是他也得到很多人的支持， 特别是白人中产阶级，他是右翼保守势力的代表。 左派都不喜欢他。 不过他平衡多伦多市的财政还是很有效果的。 上届政府是负债累累，现在是财政盈余。 这个把他搞下来其实是出于这个政治原因。

austral-asian

基本上政客被搞大多出于政治斗争原因。老实说这个法官也有点，为了３０００块的事情，而且那次投票即便ROB FORD本人不参与，结果还是相同的。非要揪着原则问题不放也太忽略实际问题了。

lamjin

基本上政客被搞大多出于政治斗争原因。老实说这个法官也有点，为了３０００块的事情，而且那次投票即便ROB FORD本人不参与，结果还是相同的。非要揪着原则问题不放也太忽略实际问题了。 ...
austral-asian 发表于 2012-11-27 22:26

                               
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错就错在那次投票他参与了， 就是这个原则问题，法官判市长的输的。 所以这边对原则上的事，还是法官还是不含糊的，对就是对，错就是错，不管你是谁。

ku8h96de4

4# austral-asian
那就别养鱼改养乌龟，一样能吃。

孙天昌