halley
发表于 2009-11-3 10:59:10
查了一下网络,得出印象:
1、H1N1的死亡率并不比普通流感高。普通流感的死亡率是小于0.1%。
2、加拿大政府保护H1N1疫苗生产商。如果疫苗产生副作用,生产商将免于被起诉。http://www.infowars.com/canada-will-protect-swine-flu-vaccine-maker-from-lawsuits/
我的学校并没有强制要求学生打H1N1疫苗。
以前在国内,我的同事一家每年打流感疫苗,他一家人倒是经常感冒。
所以我就不打了。
lotusleaf
发表于 2009-11-3 12:32:25
本帖最后由 lotusleaf 于 2009-11-3 12:34 编辑
这一次加拿大政府对于h1n1的反应,真是让人心里拔凉拔凉的。
现在又闹了一出缺货,想打都没得打了。估计等一段时间一旦来货,将有更大帮人涌向诊所。。。真不知道该不该打?
China_yan
发表于 2009-11-3 15:11:58
现在其实是太晚了,年初刚发病的时候就因该全面隔离,杜绝传染源,切断传染渠道。可号称最发达国家的美国加拿大却听之任之。现在只能听天由命了:不打疫苗的,请为你有一个对甲流不敏感的体质而祈祷吧!选择打疫苗的,请为你有一个对添加剂无不良反应的体质祈祷吧!
龙生龙,凤生风,老鼠的孩子会打洞,至少不是全是忽悠人的。
未飘落的雪
发表于 2009-11-3 23:55:39
我同学和她家人打了疫苗,孩子发烧,她自己全身痛了2、3天。听了更怕怕。
Jessica118
发表于 2009-11-17 02:43:33
感谢白大夫给上了一堂课,看来这个疫苗有点危险,还是打普通流感疫苗算了。
KimHo
发表于 2009-11-17 13:04:57
各有各的道理,看来还得自己拿主意。
KimHo
发表于 2009-11-17 13:33:08
卡尔加里今天第三天打疫苗,平就排队时间4个小时,我认识的一个第一天就去了,排了7个半小时。
想请教白大夫这个疫苗的有效期是多长时间?也很犹豫要不要打。想给孩子打那种没有辅剂,这样是不是安全一些? ...
lotusleaf 发表于 2009-10-29 03:22 http://www.ourdream.ca/forums/static/image/common/back.gif
不知道现在排队要排多久?
China_yan
发表于 2009-11-18 02:31:52
本帖最后由 China_yan 于 2009-11-18 02:33 编辑
给个连接:加拿大卡尔加里大学发表在国立孤独自闭症协会官方网站上的有关甲流疫苗中防腐剂THIMEROSAL的综合报道报道:
http://www.nationalautismassociation.org/thimerosal.php
主要影响儿童青少年
lotusleaf
发表于 2009-11-18 07:06:48
白大夫,看了这篇文章,有点不解:
是不是儿童注射的疫苗里面都含有THIMEROSAL?也就是说, 自闭症是儿童注射了很多疫苗后的累积反应。是不是这次猪流感疫苗的副作用实际上也并不特别?如果以前的疫苗里面也有这个东西的话,既然这次疫情这么凶险,要不干脆狠下心肠去种了?反正以前已经打了很多疫苗了,也不在乎多这一次。『大汗』
我都快晕死了!人生要面临的选择实在太多。8-)
lucktj
发表于 2009-11-18 07:51:57
学校发的通知上说,三岁以下小孩不打,其他年龄段自愿。我们没有报名,也有一些没有报名。孩子班级上也陆续有20个孩子发过烧了,是不是甲流不知道,现在医院也不查
China_yan
发表于 2009-11-18 13:57:30
白大夫,看了这篇文章,有点不解:
如果以前的疫苗里面也有这个 ...
lotusleaf 发表于 2009-11-18 07:06 http://www.ourdream.ca/forums/static/image/common/back.gif
目前大部分疫苗中,特别是与儿童有关的疫苗中是不含有THIMEROSAL的。美国FDA官方网站上的疫苗中THIMEROSAL的含量,一看就知道了。
Tables Table 1. Thimerosal Content of Vaccines Routinely Recommended for Children 6 Years of Age and Younger - (updated 7/18/2005*)
*Since this update, a biologics license application was approved for Rotavirus Vaccine, Tradename-RotaTeq (Merck), that is thimerosal free and never contained thimerosal.VaccineTradename
(Manufacturer)Thimerosal Status Concentration**(Mercury)Approval Date for Thimerosal Free or Thimerosal / Preservative Free (Trace Thimerosal)*** FormulationDTaPInfanrix
(GlaxoSmithKline Biologicals)FreeNever contained more than a trace of thimerosal, approval date for thimerosal-free formulation 9/29/2000Daptacel
(Sanofi Pasteur, Ltd)FreeNever contained ThimerosalTripedia
(Sanofi Pasteur, Inc)Trace(≤0.3 µg Hg/0.5mL dose)03/07/01DTaP-HepB-IPVPediarix
(GlaxoSmithKline Biologicals)FreeNever contained more than a Trace of Thimerosal, approval date for thimerosal-free formulation 1/29/2007Pneumococcal conjugatePrevnar
(Wyeth Pharmaceuticals Inc)FreeNever contained ThimerosalInactivated PoliovirusIPOL
(Sanofi Pasteur, SA)FreeNever contained ThimerosalVaricella (chicken pox)Varivax
(Merck & Co, Inc)FreeNever contained ThimerosalMumps, measles, and rubellaM-M-R-II
(Merck & Co, Inc)FreeNever contained ThimerosalHepatitis BRecombivax HB
(Merck & Co, Inc)Free08/27/99Engerix B
(GlaxoSmithKline Biologicals)Free03/28/00, approval date for thimerosal-free formulation 1/30/2007Haemophilus influenzae type b conjugate (Hib)ActHIB
(Sanofi Pasteur, SA)
OmniHIB
(GlaxoSmithKline)FreeNever contained ThimerosalPedvaxHIB
(Merck & Co, Inc)Free08/99HibTITER, single dose
(Wyeth Pharmaceuticals, Inc.)1FreeNever contained ThimerosalHib/Hepatitis B combinationComvax
(Merck & Co, Inc)FreeNever contained ThimerosalInfluenzaFluzone
(Sanofi Pasteur, Inc)0.01% (12.5 µg/0.25 mL dose, 25 µg/0.5 mL dose)2 Fluzone
(Sanofi Pasteur, Inc)3
(no thimerosal)Free12/23/2004Fluvirin
(Novartis Vaccines and Diagnostics Ltd)0.01% (25 µg/0.5 mL dose) Fluvirin
(Novartis Vaccines and Diagnostics Ltd)
(Preservative Free)Trace (<1ug Hg/0.5mL dose)09/28/01Influenza, liveFluMist
(MedImmune Vaccines, Inc)FreeNever contained Thimerosal
** Thimerosal is approximately 50% mercury (Hg) by weight. A 0.01% solution (1 part per 10,000) of thimerosal contains 50 µg of Hg per 1 mL dose or 25 µg of Hg per 0.5 mL dose.
*** The term "trace" has been taken in this context to mean 1 microgram of mercury per dose or less.
1 HibTiITER was also manufactured in thimerosal-preservative containing multidose vials but these were no longer available after 2002.
2 Children 6 months old to less than 3 years of age receive a half-dose of vaccine, i.e., 0.25 mL; children 3 years of age and older receive 0.5 mL.
3 A trace thimerosal containing formulation of Fluzone was approved on 9/14/02 and has been replaced with the formulation without thimerosal.
China_yan
发表于 2009-11-18 13:59:34
还有一张表:
Table 3: Thimerosal and Expanded List of Vaccines - (updated 3/14/2008)
Thimerosal Content in Currently Manufactured U.S. Licensed VaccinesVaccineTrade NameManufacturerThimerosal Concentration1MercuryAnthraxAnthrax vaccineEmergent BioDefense Operations Lansing Inc.00DTaPTripedia2Sanofi Pasteur, Inc≤ 0.00012%≤ 0.3 µg/0.5 mL doseInfanrixGlaxoSmithKline Biologicals00DaptacelSanofi Pasteur, Ltd00DTaP-HepB-IPVPediarixGlaxoSmithKline Biologicals00DTNo Trade NameSanofi Pasteur, Inc< 0.00012% (single dose)< 0.3 µg/0.5mL doseSanofi Pasteur, Ltd30.01%25 µg/0.5 mL doseTdNo Trade NameMassBiologics≤ 0.00012%≤ 0.3 µg mercury/0.5 ml doseDecavacSanofi Pasteur, Inc≤ 0.00012%≤ 0.3 µg mercury/0.5 ml doseNo Trade NameSanofi Pasteur, Ltd00TdapAdacelSanofi Pasteur, Ltd00BoostrixGlaxoSmithKline Biologicals00TTNo Trade NameSanofi Pasteur, Inc0.01%25 µg/0.5 mL doseHibActHIB/OmniHIB4Sanofi Pasteur, SA00HibTITERWyeth Pharmaceuticals, Inc.00PedvaxHIB liquidMerck & Co, Inc00Hib/HepBCOMVAX5Merck & Co, Inc00Hepatitis BEngerix-B
Pediatric/adolescentAdultGlaxoSmithKline Biologicals 00 00Recombivax HBPediatric/adolescentAdult (adolescent)DialysisMerck & Co, Inc 000 000Hepatitis AHavrixGlaxoSmithKline Biologicals00VaqtaMerck & Co, Inc00HepA/HepBTwinrixGlaxoSmithKline Biologicals< 0.0002%< 1 µg/1mL doseIPVIPOLSanofi Pasteur, SA00PoliovaxSanofi Pasteur, Ltd00InfluenzaAfluriaCSL Limited0 (single dose)
0.01% (multidose)0/0.5 mL (single dose)
24.5 µg/0.5 mL (multidose)Fluzone6Sanofi Pasteur, Inc0.01%25 µg/0.5 mL doseFluvirinNovartis Vaccines and Diagnostics Ltd0.01%25 µg/0.5 ml doseFluzone (no thimerosal)Sanofi Pasteur, Inc00Fluvirin (Preservative Free)Novartis Vaccines and Diagnostics Ltd< 0.0004%< 1 µg/0.5 mL doseFluarixGlaxoSmithKline Biologicals< 0.0004%< 1 µg/0.5 ml doseFluLavalID Biomedical Corporation of Quebec0.01%25 µg/0.5 ml doseInfluenza, liveFluMistMedImmune Vaccines, Inc00Japanese Encephalitis7JE-VAXResearch Foundation for Microbial Diseases of Osaka University0.007%35 µg/1.0mL dose
17.5 µg/0.5 mL doseMMRMMR-IIMerck & Co, Inc00MeningococcalMenomune A, C, AC and A/C/Y/W-135Sanofi Pasteur, Inc0.01% (multidose)
0 (single dose)25 µg/0.5 dose
0Menactra A, C, Y and W-135Sanofi Pasteur, Inc00PneumococcalPrevnar (Pneumo Conjugate)Wyeth Pharmaceuticals Inc00Pneumovax 23Merck & Co, Inc00RabiesIMOVAXSanofi Pasteur, SA00RabavertNovartis Vaccines and Diagnostics00Smallpox (Vaccinia), LiveACAM2000Acambis, Inc.00Typhoid FeverTyphim ViSanofi Pasteur, SA00VivotifBerna Biotech, Ltd00VaricellaVarivaxMerck & Co, Inc00Yellow FeverY-F-VaxSanofi Pasteur, Inc00Table Footnotes [*]Thimerosal is approximately 50% mercury (Hg) by weight. A 0.01% solution (1 part per 10,000) of thimerosal contains 50 µg of Hg per 1 ml dose or 25 µg of Hg per 0.5 ml dose. [*]Sanofi Pasteur's Tripedia may be used to reconstitute ActHib to form TriHIBit. TriHIBit is indicated for use in children 15 to 18 months of age. [*]This vaccine is not marketed in the US. [*]OmniHIB is manufactured by Sanofi Pasteur but distributed by GlaxoSmithKline. [*]COMVAX is not licensed for use under 6 weeks of age because of decreased response to the Hib component. [*]Children under 3 years of age receive a half-dose of vaccine, i.e., 0.25 mL (12.5 µg mercury/dose.) [*]JE-VAX is distributed by Aventis Pasteur. Children 1 to 3 years of age receive a half-dose of vaccine, i.e., 0.5 mL (17.5 µg mercury/dose).
lotusleaf
发表于 2009-11-18 15:02:06
现在能确定猪流感的疫苗里面就是含有C9H9HgNaO2}S了吗?难道政府官员和这些科学家制造商啥的都疯了吗?这次这么大面积注射的疫苗,居然敢用这种东东做防腐剂?