回复: 相聚加拿大的第一万个主题 - 兼聊驿路枫情组织化
Post by 公益不是梦很高兴我的帖子能够起到一些刨砖引玉的作用, 同时也看到了临时管理委员会成员的一些重量级别的发言推动了事情的发展.
如同html所说, 承认枫情论坛当前归FCH所有实际工作的起点(当然,大家正在基于当初的理念,一起完成这种个人所有权到公益组织所有权的转化.)
FCH放弃收回条款,是重要的一步,批评这个条款的原因主要是两点:收回条款,某种程度上继续承认FCH的个人所有权,从而为将来可能的产权分争埋下了阴影(这种例子很多,比如"加拿大普通话联合会");同时,FCH参与到公益组织也会存在角色冲突.
注册在BC省的争论,其实只是一个表象.实质是, 非牟利机构明确的宗旨,大纲,章程,组织架构没有被仔细思考过. 这些宗旨,大纲,章程被定义出来后,自然就有清晰的会员资格定义. 会员资格定义出来就可以选出理事会全权行动.
当前比较重要的一步是,枫情论坛的公益宗旨和大纲是什么?然后从最简单的目标开始,行动起来.
最后,尽管很痛苦,还有概念需要区分.如同html所说,公益组织有个人(比尔盖茨基金会)所有,也有组织(红十字会)所有;小熊笨笨的家园网将来也许会有一个组织(公司);产权属于一个组织,不能推演出公益的结论. 重要的是,宗旨,大纲,章程和这些"宪法"的执行力.
很高兴你回来继续参与讨论！
对我来说，只要不是根本性的原则问题，都可以求同存异。我并不认同你说的所有权不清的说法，不过，我前面已经说了，为了避免这些非原则性的争议，我放弃了 回收 的提议。（做为另外的私下讨论，我很想知道你说的普通话联合会的事例，我们另外在论坛建设讨论那个问题如何？）
你说的宗旨，大纲，章程，法律有它既定的要求，组织也可以有所改动，以枫情论坛的情况，恐怕需要改动的还不少。这些事情需要商议，谁来商议？还是我上面提到的，人的问题！
论坛会员可以用网名商议，给意见，可是，执行的，需要的是可以确定身份的实实在在的人！
动嘴，谁都会，最重要是动脑，动手，身体力行。我觉得你如此有见地，就应该站出来，也承担一份！
我想问，你对论坛与组织的关系，有什么看法？获者说，组织的工作方向，宗旨，纲领等宪法问题有什么具体见解？
回复: 相聚加拿大的第一万个主题 - 兼聊驿路枫情组织化
为了方便大家学习法律文件，上传放在这里，一共19页。既然准备注册团体，得仔细看看才行。
另外关于机构是否可以跨国的问题，找了个实例（国际非开挖技术协会）参考一下
国际非开挖技术协会及其成员国（地区）
(2000年8月)
ISTT OFFICIAL CONTACTS AND ADDRESSES OF AFFILIATED SOCIETIES
(AS AT 22 AUGUST 2000)
国际非开挖技术协会（ISTT）成立于1986年，总部设在英国伦敦。协会的宗旨是在世界范围内宣传和组织交流非开挖技术，包括地下管线的铺设、修复和置换。目前已有26个国家和地区加入了本协会。可通过两种途径申请加入并成为国际非开挖技术协会会员：一是所在国家或地区已经是成员国的，申请者只能在当地申请成为当事国（地区）会员，并自然成为国际非开挖技术协会会员；二是所在国家或地区尚未成为成员国的，则可直接向国际非开挖技术协会申请，成为其会员。会员每月可从国际协会收到会刊＜NO－DIG INTERNATIONAL＞及其它相关资料。
http://www.cstt.org/images/Image113.jpg
国际非开挖技术协会（ISTT）总部
ISTT
15 Belgrave Square
LONDON SW1X 8PS UK
TEL: +44 (020) 7259 6755
FAX: +44 (020) 7235 6976
EMAIL: info@istt.co.uk
HOME PAGE: http://www.istt.com
Chairman:Prof. Ray Sterling
Vice-Chairman: Menno Henneveld
Chairman Emeritus: E W (Ted) Flaxman
Intnl. Memb. Sec: Patricia Nolan (Based at ISTT London)
Executive Secretary: John Castle (Based at ISTT London)
Technical Secretary: John James
国际非开挖技术协会成员国
ISTT AFFILIATES:
AATT（奥地利非开挖技术协会）
Osterreichische Vereinigung
Fur das Gas-und Wasserfach
Schubertring 14
A-1015 Wien AUSTRIA
TEL: +43 1 5131 588-0 FAX: +43 1 5131 58825 Email:eisenhut@fv-ovgw.or.at Chairman:Reinhart Fritsch
Secretary: Manfred Eisenhut
Director: Manfred Eisenhut
ABRATT（巴西非开挖技术协会）
Av. José Cesar de Oliveira
181 Conjunto 105
Sao Paulo – SP
Cep 05317-000 BRAZIL
TEL: +55 11 260 4295 FAX: +55 11 260 4295 EMAIL: abratt@uol.com.br Chairman: Sergio A Palazzo (Fax: +55 11 3619 3955) spalazzo@amcham.com.br
Director: Sergio Palazzo
Administrator：Adelson Saint'Ana
ARATT (阿根廷非开挖技术协会)
Arce 957 Piso 4 “B”
1426 Buenos Aires ARGENTINA
TEL: +54 11 4777 6080 FAX: +54 11 4774 2423
EMAIL: arattsz@infovia.com.ar Chairman: Juan Enrique Marconi
V-Chairman: Dr Marcelo F Sanoner
Director: Victor Hugo Pastore
Memb. Sec: Lilia Ruth Tossi
ASTT 大西洋(澳大利亚、新西兰)非开挖技术协会
The Water Corporation
629 Newcastle Street ，PO Box 100
Leederville 6007
WESTERN AUSTRALIA
TEL: +61 (0)8 9420 2826
FAX: +61 (0)8 9420 3171
EMAIL: astt@wantree.com.au
Home Page: http://www.astt.com.au Chairman: Menno Henneveld
Secretary: Jeff Pace -
jeffpace@astt.com.au
Director: Menno Henneveld
CHSTT (瑞士非开挖技术协会)
CSD-Monod Ingenieurs Conseils SA
Chemin de Montelly 78, CP 60
CH-1000 Lausanne 20
SWITZERLAND
TEL: +41 21 620 70 70 FAX: +41 21 620 70 71 Chairman: Jean-Pascal Gendre
jp.gendre@csd.ch
Secretary: Katia Gribi/Olivier Tappy
Director: Jean-Pascal Gendre
CHKSTT (中国香港非开挖技术协会)
C/O Towngas
363 Java Road
17F North Point，HONG KONG
TEL:-(Not submitted) FAX: +852 2590 7832
EMAIL: philip.chan@towngas.com Acting Chairman: Philip Chan
Acting Secretary: Philip Chan
CSTT(中国非开挖技术协会)
China Geology Academy
26 Baiwanzhuang Da Jie, Xicheng District
Beijing 100037 China
TEL: +86 10 68992605 FAX: +86 10 62770828
EMAIL:heyzh@cstt.org
Home Page:http://="http://www.cstt.org/"]www.cstt.org Chairman: Yan Chunwen yacwe@cstt.org
Secretary: Professor He Yizhang
CTSTT (中国台北非开挖技术协会)
9F, 4, Sec.1, Chung-Hsiao W. Rd.
Taipei, TAIWAN ROC
TEL: +886 2 2388 9520 FAX: +886 2 2389 4924 EMAIL: meihua@mail.pcc.gov.tw Chairman: Liao Tsung-Shen
Secretary: Sun-Kuei Wang
Director: Professor D H Jiang
dhjiang@fcums1.fcu.edu.tw
CzSTT (捷克非开挖技术协会)
Belohorska 157
169 00 Praha 6
CZECH REPUBLIC
TEL: +420 2 3335 2000 FAX: 420 2 2051 3684 EMAIL: czstt@czn.cz Chairman: Prof. Milos Karous
geonika@comp.cz
Secretary: Dr Jiri Kubalek
Director: Stanislav Drabek
FiSTT (芬兰非开挖技术协会)
PL 493
00101 Helsinki
FINLAND
TEL:: +358 9 27 666 836
FAX: +358 9 27 666 850
EMAIL: mriitta.virtanen@insituform.fi Chairman: Mikko Isakow
mikko.isakow@kouvola.fi
Secretary: Sakari Kuikka
sakari.kuikka@insituform.fi
Memb. Sec: Riitta Virtanen
riitta.virtanen@insituform.fi
Director: Mikko Isakow
FSTT (法国非开挖技术协会)
72 Abenue Pasteur, 93100 Montreuil
France
TEL: +33 1 4870 9232 FAX: +33 1 48709979
EMAIL: fstt14870@aol.com
HOME PAGE: http://www.fstt.org Chairman: Michel Mermet
Secretary: Monique Lac
Director: Michel Mermet
GSTT (德国非开挖技术协会)
St Petersburger Str.1
D-20355 Hamburg
GERMANY
TEL: +49 40 3569 2238 (2240)
FAX: +49 40 3569 2343 (2269 for CCH)
EMAIL: gstt@cch.de RIEGERMATT@aol.com
HOME PAGE:http://www.leitungsbau.de/GSTT/main_e.htm Chairman: Dipl-Ing Rolf Bielecki
Chairman's PA: Matthias Rieger rieger@cch.de
Memb.Sec: Gabriele Kopper kopper@cch.de
Director: Professor Dietrich Stein
IATT (意大利非开挖技术协会)
Centro Direzionale Corte Lambruschini, “Torre B”
P.zza Borgo Pila, 39 16129 Genova TALY
TEL: +39 010 5302476 FAX: +39 010 5451698 EMAIL: info@iatt.it Chairman: Dr. Feliciano Esposto
Secretary: P. Trombetti
Director: Dr. Feliciano Esposto
IbSTT (伊比利亚(葡萄牙、西班牙)非开挖技术协会)
C/Alenza 1, 28003 Madrid
SPAIN
TEL: +34 91 399 5093
FAX: +34 91 399 5093
EMAIL: ibstt@teleline.es Chairman: Alfredo Avello alfredo@abyo.com
Secretary: Elena Zuniga Alcon
Director: Alfredo Avello
IndSTT (印度非开挖技术协会)
C/o NBCC
NBCC Bhavan， Lodi Road
New Delhi – 110003
INDIA
TEL: +91 11 436 9497 FAX: +91 11 436 6995
EMAIL: nbccho@del2.vsnl.net.in Chairman: A K Sarkar
Secretary: B S S Sastry
Director: A K Sarkar
JSTT (日本非开挖技术协会)
Akasaka Kyowa Bldg
1-6-14 Akasaka, Minato-Ku
Tokyo 107-0052
JAPAN
TEL: +81 3 3586 5181 FAX: +81 3 3586 5183 EMAIL: jstt@ca.mbn.or.jp Chairman: Dr. Satoru Tohyama
Secretary: Hiroshi Sugano
Director: Dr. Satoru Tohyama
NASTT 北美(美国、加拿大、墨西哥)非开挖技术协会
1655 North Fort Myer Drive Suite 700
Arlington Virginia 22209
USA
Tel: +1 703 751 5252 FAX: +1 703 3515261
Email: nastt@nastt.org
HOME PAGE: http://www.nastt.org Chairman: Trent Ralston
Director: Paul Nicholas
Secretary: John Hemphill jhemphill@nastt.org
NSTT (荷兰非开挖技术协会)
Baronielaan 138
4818 RD Breda
THE NETHERLANDS
TEL: +31 (0)76 530 2362 FAX: +31 (0)76 530 2357 Chairman: J J van den Berg
Secretary: Marianne Wetsteyn
Director: Prof. Ir E Horvat
PFTT (波兰非开挖技术协会)
25-001 Kielce 1
SKR. Pocztowa 1453
POLAND
TEL: +48 22 651 69 72
FAX: +48 22 642 13 44
EMAIL: paapl@qdnet.pl
Chairman: Jerzy Adamski
V. Chairman: ArekBachan
Secretary: Dr Bohdan Jasinski
Director: Arek Bachan
SSTT 北欧(瑞典、丹麦、挪威)非开挖技术协会
Box 8123,SE-104 20
Stockholm,Sweden,
TEL: +46 8 454 515 20
FAX: +46 8 650 81 08
http://="http://www.cstt.org/www.sstt-skandinavien.com"]www.sstt-skandinavien.com
Chairman: Gert Fischer
Secretary: Per Hadell
SASTT (南非开挖技术协会)
PO Box 4378
Halfway House 1685
OUTH AFRICA
TEL: +27 (0)12 654 5321
FAX: +27 (0)12 660 0613
EMAIL: dlcgtg@1africa.com
HOMEPAGE: http://www.sastt.org.za Chairman: Joop van Wamelen jvwamele@csir.co.za
Director: Joop van wamelen
V.Chairman: Paul J Le Roux paul@ksinc.co.za
Memb.Sec:Rachel Van Der Watt Rachelle@global.co.za
SVKSTT (斯洛伐克非开挖技术协会)
Mojmirova 14
Box 6
972 01 Bojnice
SLOVAKIA
TEL: +421 862 5402575 FAX: +421 862 5402575
EMAIL: krcikhsb@psg.sk Chairman: Marian Krcik (krcikhsb@psg.sk)
V.Chairman: Josef Bagin
Secretary: Jan Kavacky (jan.kavacky@hgr.hds.sk)
Director: Marian Krcik
UKSTT(英国非开挖技术协会)
C/o UMIST, PO Box 88
Dept. of Civil & Structural Engineering
Sackville Street, MANCHESTER
M60 1QD UK
TEL: +44 (0)161 200 4623 FAX: (0)161 200 4646
EMAIL: ukstt@umist.ac.uk
HOME PAGE: http://www.ukstt.org.uk Chairman: Dr Dec Downey
Exec. Sec: Ian Vickridge
Director: Dr Dec Downey
Memb: Sec: Joan Carey
USTT (乌克兰非开挖技术协会)
Solomenskaja Str 3
Kiev 252110 UKRAINE
TEL: +380 44 276 42 80
FAX: + 380 44 276 6174 President: V Markivsky
V. President: Vladimir Ponomarenko
Secretary:
国际非开挖技术协会于1986年在伦敦成立，至2001年会员国已达25个国家和地区，我国于1998年加盟该协会并成为当时的第20个成员国。
国际非开挖技术协会（ISTT）联系地址： ISTT, 15 Belgrave Square, London SW1X 8PS, UK
Tel: +44 20 7259 6755 Fax: +44 20 7235 6976 Email: info@istt.co.uk
http://www.istt.com
回复: 相聚加拿大的第一万个主题 - 兼聊驿路枫情组织化
谢谢html提供这些参考资料。回复: 相聚加拿大的第一万个主题 - 兼聊驿路枫情组织化
公益不是梦 提到 关于非牟利机构明确的宗旨,大纲,章程,组织架构等等，
其实作为初创阶段主要工作正是这些目标，我们需要将网络乌托邦的理想变成现实。
筹划成立机构，也是落实临时管理委员会最初的构想。 万事开头难，做为没有先例的探索更难，所以热诚欢迎有识之士共同来创业！
下面是当初的公告，重贴一遍供大家参考
“驿路枫情--加拿大移民论坛”临时管理委员会公告
2005-01号(2005年10月1日发布)
关于论坛（网站）的性质、组织机构及财务说明
论坛（网站）性质：
一个为加国华人移民服务，属全体会员所有的公益性、非牟利性机构。
论坛（网站）组织：
初创阶段暂时由临时管理委员会进行管理，临时管理委员会由下列会员组成：
FCH、dawn0065、apple3800、hanhan、html。
临时管理委员会成员将与大家一起逐步探索建立一套
完善、公正、有效、透明的制度体系和组织机构。
论坛（网站）财务：
初创阶段依靠临时管理委员会委员的无息借款支付运营费用，
今后将按照加国的财务和审计制度进行管理，广开创收渠道，逐步做到收支平衡。
如将来论坛（网站）能够赢利，赢余部分将全部用于公益事业。
论坛财务状况除将定期公布外，在有较大收入或支出时随时公布。
临时管理委员全体成员真诚希望广大会员积极参与论坛建设，
并对我们的工作予以监督指正。
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现阶段组织的成立不会对论坛的运作有什么太大的改变，论坛绝大部分注册成员都会在论坛上继续寻求帮助或帮助别人。因此我想大部分人对此事都只能说一句支持，并不能或者没时间去仔细了解很多细则，提很多意见。要大部分人都投入进去讨论根本不可能. 而大家不讨论并没表示反对组织的成立。我想大部分机构的成立都是由几个热心人士牵头的，能否就由现在论坛的临管会和热心参与讨论的这几朋友起草临时的宗旨，大纲，章程以及会员、理事的权利义务（包括在哪注册等具体事务），再请大家在此基础上提意见，并根据此判断自己是否加入会员和竞选理事了。
我还觉得无论加入的会员的人数是多少，只要满足注册组织的最低要求，都可以先去成立，会员人数也是慢慢等组织和论坛壮大了才会逐渐增加的。
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老大,我对注册bc有些担心,现在客观的讲,驿路枫情的主要成员在温哥华,如果希望论坛健康发展,就需要多吸收其他地方的成员,鼓励其他地方的成员加入.现在把组织注册在bc,会给其他地方的成员错误理解,认为组织和论坛主要是为大温地区的移民服务的.这样一来将不利于组织和论坛的发展.我个人认为组织还是注册联邦较好,但管理机构可以设在温哥华,并鼓励其他地区的成员加入,在理事会中预留一定比例的名额,他们可以暂不参与具体工作,但需对组织筹建和运作有建议的义务和投票的权利,以照顾其他地区会员的权利.回复: 相聚加拿大的第一万个主题 - 兼聊驿路枫情组织化
Post by coyote老大,我对注册bc有些担心,现在客观的讲,驿路枫情的主要成员在温哥华,如果希望论坛健康发展,就需要多吸收其他地方的成员,鼓励其他地方的成员加入.现在把组织注册在bc,会给其他地方的成员错误理解,认为组织和论坛主要是为大温地区的移民服务的.这样一来将不利于组织和论坛的发展.我个人认为组织还是注册联邦较好,但管理机构可以设在温哥华,并鼓励其他地区的成员加入,在理事会中预留一定比例的名额,他们可以暂不参与具体工作,但需对组织筹建和运作有建议的义务和投票的权利,以照顾其他地区会员的权利.
真心感谢 coyote 的建议！『开心』
大家的意见经过讨论，汇总后，也许就是组织的主要规范了。只要发言的人，本着尊重别人，理解别人的心态，就会对讨论有正面意义。
联邦，省，都不是最大问题，俺也没有既定立场，只要可行，大家同意，就ok。
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联邦注册条例要再研究，这里有些：http://corporationscanada.ic.gc.ca/epic/internet/incd-dgc.nsf/en/cs02167e.html
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Post by coyote老大,我对注册bc有些担心,现在客观的讲,驿路枫情的主要成员在温哥华,如果希望论坛健康发展,就需要多吸收其他地方的成员,鼓励其他地方的成员加入.现在把组织注册在bc,会给其他地方的成员错误理解,认为组织和论坛主要是为大温地区的移民服务的.这样一来将不利于组织和论坛的发展.我个人认为组织还是注册联邦较好,但管理机构可以设在温哥华,并鼓励其他地区的成员加入,在理事会中预留一定比例的名额,他们可以暂不参与具体工作,但需对组织筹建和运作有建议的义务和投票的权利,以照顾其他地区会员的权利.
『支持』 『支持』 『支持』 建议真好.俺不知道操作上有什么样的要求,办事机构暂时在温哥华也是有实际意义且相对可行的.希望以后壮大了,到处都可以有办事处之类的.『酷』
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注册地点，我一直没有觉得是大问题，因为我们现在要尽快解决主要茅盾，即论坛归属权的问题。解决了它，才能轻装上阵，并希望解决了它，对论坛的发展长远有利。所以，我一直觉得联邦和省注册是一样的，即使是中国注册的，也无所谓。只要它能体现属于大家的属性。html说的那些国际组织，不也是一个总部，其它分部也是独立注册的嘛。并不影响会员加入。不过，从大家的发言来看，联邦似乎对未来发展更好。只是注册的时候稍微麻烦些，大家也要重新研究内容，另外，可能注册费用稍微高一些。这些应该都是细节了，可以克服。
那么，就联邦注册吧？还是要投票？谁愿意一起看看联邦注册的要求？
如果只解决论坛的属性问题，就快刀斩乱麻，马上搞定；这样大家可以快些全心为论坛发展做点实际的事情；
如果要详细研究，就花多些时间，慢慢做。rolia的附属npo，安省注册，前后花了年余时间，好像还不止呢。希望我们可以快些。
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我给转移到这里了。以前的地方留了记号。说的具体些，希望有几个朋友，不论地域，一起先把事情做出来吧。联邦就联邦，谁愿意参与进来讨论细节的，就报名进来，至少要研究一下注册的手续，要求，等等。。。bc省的，我基本都清楚了，联邦的要再看看。有多几个人了解的，可以互相商量一下，还有，我自己认为，是不是这次就先解决属性问题。毕竟大家精力有限，而且我们的主体在未来一段时间，还是这个论坛，主要的工作还是围绕它。至于长远是否开展更多的公益服务，目前，我感觉真的言之尚早，大家得先顾着自己，才能想更多的帮助别人的工作，我说的对吧？俺提 乌托邦，前面还有个网络呢，呵呵。。。就是那样，已经被很多人觉得是不着边际了。。。要新移民这个需要别人帮助的群体，利用有价的时间去全面投入一个没有回报的事业，是不太现实的。
如果大家认同我上面的观点，我们就快速将组织成立起来。这样行吗？
还是那句，谁愿意一起研究联邦注册的细节，并继续在这里，或者一个特别的版面，商议细节，如果需要，见面商讨？
我也在联系注册地址，希望不会太贵，大家有好的主意吗？俺不想用自己的住址来注册，希望组织与自己的私人生活分开比较好，请大家谅解。组织一成立，我就将论坛转给组织。大家也都看到了，这个论坛还很不成熟，经不起折腾。现在是个不错的成立组织的时机，没有发展到让人有私欲的地步，又暂时稳定了一些。再拖，以后还会有类似的问题，类似的质疑出现。俺自己是受不了这样的折腾了，这是我心里话。
俺自己的税，要这段时间报，希望3月底搞定，然后全力做组织注册的实际操作。现在大家可以接续商讨，提意见。第一次做的不全面也没有关系，至少是论坛的拥有权搞清楚了，这一点是肯定的了。
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Post by FCH至于长远是否开展更多的公益服务，目前，我感觉真的言之尚早，大家得先顾着自己，才能想更多的帮助别人的工作，我说的对吧？
『支持』
我也觉得对于我们现在论坛上的这个群体而言，大家目前自己的工作生活都还没有安定下来，奢谈大规模的公益活动不现实。现在把发展论坛做为主要目标还实际一点。
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FCH给出的联邦注册信息贴出来，方便大家研究：Information Kit on the Creation and Amendment of Not-for-Profit Corporations
Policy Statement 13.1
September 19, 1997
Table of Contents
[*]Introduction ...
[*]Our Role
[*]Our Problems
[*]Our Method of Dealing with these Problems (New Procedures)
[*]For your Assistance ...
[*]What is a Corporation?
[*]What is a Non-Profit Corporation?
[*]What is the Basic Structure of a Non-Profit Corporation?
[*]How to Apply for Incorporation
[*]How to Apply to Amend the provisions of Your Letters Patent
[*]How to Apply to Amend your General By-Laws
[*]How to Apply to Change the Place where your Head Office is to be Situated
[*]How to Apply to Continue Certain Types of Non-Profit Organizations, Incorporated by Special Act of Parliament, under the Provisions of the Canada CorporationsAct, Part II>
[*]How to Apply to Surrender Your Charter and Dissolve
[*]How to complete the Not-for-Profit Checklist
[*]How to Apply for Approval of your Standard By-Law Format
[*]How to find an Acceptable Name for your Non-Profit Corporation
[*]Please Note ...
[*]Totally Inadequate Application
[*]Complaints or suggestions
[*]Registration with Revenue Canada as a Charitable Corporation
[*]"Not-for-Profit" Status with Revenue Canada
[*]Filing Requirements
[*]Record Keeping
[*]Director General's Power of Investigation and Inquiry
[*]Affidavits, Statutory Declaration and Commissioner for Taking Oaths
[*]Remember ... IIntroduction ...
Our Role
In our view, our role is to ensure that the requirements of the Canada Corporations Act Part II,with respect to the creation and amendment of not-for-profit corporations, have been met, and
To assist the applicants in the creation or amendment of a federal not-for-profit corporation in sucha way that they end up with a workable structure for carrying on their activities.
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Our Problems
The number of applications continues to increase, putting a strain on existing resources.
The vagueness of the Act is a serious problem.CCA Part II (seeannex 1) provides very few answers as to whetherparticular by-law provisions are acceptable, with the result that a body of ad hoc, unwritten policy decisionshas built up over the years.
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Our Method of Dealing with these Problems
During the 1987/88 work year, we installed a telephone answering machine on the Examiners' line toprovide periods of peace, when necessary, in order that work could be processed.
Also in 1987/88, we formulated a written policy designed for publication (see annex 2). This policy tries to define what types of provisions are acceptable or unacceptable when the Act isunclear or silent on the question.In drafting this document, reference was made to the contemporarythinking reflected in the draft not-for-profit legislation known as Bill C-10 which was first proposedapproximately 10 years ago but never became law.
For a period of time, we advertised a 6-week waiting period for processing not-for-profit applicationsand worked on the recurring backlog on an overtime basis.This was as hard on the staff and their moraleas it was difficult for the applicant.For this reason, in the Summer of 1988, we initiated a new system whichwe hope will eliminate the backlog over a period of time.
This new initiative involves the following components:
[*]a revised set of model by-laws (see annex 3) drafted by Corporations Canada, which, if adopted foruse by the applicant and properly identified on filing, will guarantee the speedy processing of theapplicant's application
[*]a procedure whereby a regular user of Corporations Canada services can have a standardby-law format approved so that those by-laws, properly identified as such, will guarantee the speedyprocessing of the application with which they are filed (see how to get approval)
[*]publishing the not-for-profit policy so that those who want to draft their own customized setof by-laws will know in advance which types of provisions are acceptable or unacceptable(see annex 2)
[*]a procedure whereby an applicant may ensure the speedier processing of an application bycompleting the checklist against which the application and customized by-laws will be examinedin the Directorate (see how to complete the checklist) Return to the Table of Contents
IIFor your Assistance ...
What is a Corporation?
A corporation is a legal entity which can sue or be sued or hold property in its own name.Acorporation provides a permanent structure through which individual persons or corporations canact together for a common purpose without incurring any personal liability for the corporation's debtsand obligations.
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What is a Non-Profit Corporation?
Unlike a profit-making corporation where certain shareholders will be entitled to participate inthe profits of the company, for instance by receiving dividends, in a not-for-profit corporation, thepersons acting together for a common purpose are members who are prohibitedby the statute from receiving any pecuniary gain.Their common purpose is not to make money forthemselves but rather to carry on some activity of a national, patriotic, religious, philanthropic,charitable, scientific, artistic, social, professional or sporting character, or the like.
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What is the Basic Structure of a Non-Profit Corporation?
The two basic components of a not-for-profit corporation are the Membership and the Board of Directors.
Under the terms of the general by-laws of the corporation, the Board of Directors is given theresponsibility to manage the affairs of the corporation.In order to do this, they meet together asoften as necessary and may delegate certain responsibilities to specified officers so that routinematters can be taken care of in the interval between their meetings.
Under the federal Act, the Membership must meet at least once a year to receive the Board'sreport on how the corporation has been managed over the last year and how it will be managedover the next year, to review the audited financial statements and to appoint an auditor for the coming year.
Certain actions of the board must be confirmed by the membership, e.g. amendment of theLetters Patent.In many corporations, the Membership will have the power to re-elect directors ona regular basis and to remove existing directors, if necessary, in order that the management of thecorporation reflects the wishes of the Membership.
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How to Apply for Incorporation
In order to obtain Letters Patent of incorporation you must file certain documents with the Corporations Canada.
These are:
[*]An application for Letters Patent in the format set out in annex 4 (2 originals).
[*]An affidavit or statutory declaration of one of the applicants, sworn before a commissionerfor taking oaths, stating that the contents of the application are true (seeannex 5).
[*]A $200 filing fee (cheque payable to the Receiver General for Canada).
[*]A Canada-biased NUANS® name search report not more than 90 days old, of the proposedname, or one $15.00 filing fee per search so that the NUANS® search or searches may be made in theCorporations Canada.A bilingual name normally requires 2 searches.
The applicants may wish to consider adopting a bilingual corporate name if they intend to carry onbusiness in a bilingual region.
[*]One copy only (unsigned) of the proposed By-laws of the Corporation (see modelsattached as annex 3) with identifier, if applicable.
[*]A covering letter in the format set out in annex 6, specifying thestreet address of the Head Office of the corporation.
Non-Profit By-laws must deal with at least the following matters:
[*]conditions of membership
[*]whether and how membership may withdraw
[*]mode of holding directors' meetings (including provision for notice, quorum and voting rights)
[*]mode of holding members' meetings (including provision for notice, quorum and voting rights)
[*]mode of holding executive committee meetings (including provision for notice, quorum and voting rights)
[*]directors
[*]their appointment or election
[*]their term of office
[*]their powers
[*]their remuneration
[*]their removal
[*]officers
[*]their appointment or election
[*]their term of office
[*]their powers
[*]their remuneration
[*]their removal
[*]committee members
[*]their appointment or election
[*]their term of office
[*]their powers
[*]their remuneration
[*]their removal
[*]auditor to be appointed by the members at each annual meeting to audit the books for reportto members at the annual meeting
[*]mode of repealing or amending by-laws including a clause to say that no repeal or amendmentshall be enforced or acted upon until it has received the approval of the Minister ofIndustry
[*]custody of the corporate seal (with which officer?)
[*]mode of certifying that a particular document is a document of the corporation (who signs onbehalf of the corporation?)If accepted, what you get back
Letters Patent, with one of the original applications attached, dated as of the date of receipt of theapplication in the Department.No copies of the approved by-laws are returned to you.
If not accepted, what you get back
[*]a form letter explaining that the date of receipt of the application will continue to be theeffective date providing that the date of the returning application remains the same
[*]a checklist identifying the unacceptable provisions with an "X"
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How you Apply to Amend the Provisions of your Letters Patent
To amend the provisions of your Letters Patent (e.g. name, objects, other provisions) you mustapply to the Corporations Canada for Supplementary Letters Patent (SLP).Seeannex 7.An application for SLP must include the following:
[*]An application document in the format set out in the annex
.
[*]An affidavit or statutory declaration of an officer attesting to the due passage of theby-law (by the directors and by the members) on a specific date.
[*]Two certified copies of the by-law effecting the change (less than 6 months old except inthe case of a change of name).
[*]A $50 filing fee (except where the purpose of the change is to add an English or Frenchversion to the name in which case there is no fee).
[*]A Canada-biased NUANS® name search report not more than 90 days old, of the proposedname, if applicable or one $15.00 filing fee per search so that the NUANS® search or searches may be madein the Corporations Canada.A bilingual name normally requires 2 searches.
The applicants may wish to consider adopting a bilingual corporate name if they intend to carryon business in a bilingual region.
[*]A covering letter in the format recommended in the annex.
If accepted, what you get back
Supplementary Letters Patent, with one copy of the by-law attached, dated as of the date of receipt of theapplication in the Department.
If not accepted, what you get back
[*]a form letter explaining that the date of receipt of the application will continue to be the effective dateproviding that the date of the returning application remains the same
[*]a checklist identifying the unacceptable provisions with an "X"
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How you Apply to Amend your General By-Laws
A request for Ministerial approval of by-law amendments of a not-for-profit corporation must includethe following:
[*]A letter (see annex 8) specifying:
[*]the exact changes which have been made to the existing by-laws (with section references)
[*]the date on which the amendments were sanctioned by the members in accordance with the existing by-laws
[*]a request for Ministerial approval
[*]A consolidation of the existing by-laws where a number of amendments have been madeto the provisions which are now being amended again
[*]no fee
If accepted, what you get back
A letter giving Ministerial approval as of the date of receipt in the Department.
If not accepted, what you get back
[*]a form letter explaining that upon return of the corrected documentation, Ministerial approvalwill normally be effective as of the date of receipt which follows the necessary membership approval
[*]a checklist identifying the unacceptable provisions with an "X"
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How you Apply to Amend the Place of your Head Office
The Corporation may, by by-law sanctioned by at least 2/3 of the votes cast at aspecial general meeting of members, change the place where the Head Office of the Corporation is tobe situated.
A copy of the by-law certified under the seal of the corporation must be filed with the Minister.Acovering letter indicating a street address for the Head Office must also be submitted.A bilingual noticeof the by-law must be published in the Canada Gazette by the client.
Sample Notice:
Notice is hereby given that (corporate name) has changed the location of its headoffice to the city of___________, province of __________.
Dated __________.
John Doe
President
Exemple d'un avis :
Avis est par la présente donné que (dénomination sociale)a changé son lieu du siège social en la ville de ___________, province de __________.
Daté le __________.
Jean Doe
Président
Address: Canada Gazette, Public Works and Government Services Canada, 5th Floor, 350 Albert Street,Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0S5 -Telephone: (613) 996-1268
Note: The notice must be bilingual.Failure to submit a bilingual notice will result in Supply and Servicestranslating your notice and billing you for its services.
If accepted, what you get back
A letter indicating that the by-law has been filed with the Minister.
If not accepted, what you get back
A letter identifying the deficiencies.
Note: A change of street address within the same place of the Head Office does not require sucha by-law but must be indicated on the Annual Summary filed as at March 31 each year.In the meantime,a letter to the Corporations Canada providing the new address, would suffice.
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How to Apply to Continue Certain types of Non-Profit Organizations, Incorporatedby Special Act of Parliament, under the Provisions of the Canada Corporations Act Part II
A Special Act company without share capital that wishes to amend its charter may do soeither by having Parliament pass an amending statute (consult the Law Clerk and Parliamentary Counselto the Senate at (613) 992-2416, Parliament Buildings, Wellington Street, Ottawa, K1A 0A4), or, by applyingto continue under Part II of the Canada Corporations Act, pursuant to Section 159 of that Act during whichprocess the corporation is entitled to "limit or extend its powers" and "change its corporate name".Oncecontinued under Part II, of course, the new Part II corporation would be entitled to change any part of itscharter or by-laws in accordance with the provisions of the Canada Corporations Act.
In order to continue under CCA - Part II in accordance with section 159,(see annex 9) the following must be submitted:
[*]an application in the format set out in the annex
[*]an affidavit or statutory declaration of an officer of the corporation, sworn before a commissioneror taking oaths, certifying that:
[*]the facts in the application are true
[*]the corporation is presently carrying on its affairs
[*]the resolution authorizing continuance was duly passed
[*]two certified copies of the directors' resolution which was duly approved by the members(2/3 vote) or a resolution originating the corporation's by-laws amended to comply with the requirementsof section 155(2) or alternatively, a notice to the effect that the by-laws will be so amended at the nextmeeting of the members
[*]the corporation's by-laws amended to comply with the requirements of section 155(2) oralternatively, a notice to the effect that the by-laws will be so amended at the next meeting of the members
[*]a copy of the incorporating statute and any amending statutes
[*]a $200 filing fee (cheque payable to the Receiver General for Canada)
[*]a Canada-biased NUANS® name search report not more than 90 days old, of the proposedname, or $15.00 filing fee per search so that the NUANS® search or searches may be made in theCorporations Canada.A bilingual name normally requires 2 searches If the application is accepted, Letters Patent of Continuance will be prepared in a form similar to thatset out in the annex.
Note that Section 156 of the Canada Corporations Act is similar to Section 159 but appearsto relate to corporations incorporated under a general Act of Parliament.
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How to Apply to Surrender your Charter and dissolve
A not-for-profit application for Surrender of Charter (see annex 10) must include the following:
[*]an application in the format set out in the annex
[*]a certified copy of the by-law or resolution authorizing the surrender including the date it waspassed by the members
[*]a certificate or statement of an officer of the corporation attesting to the due passage of theby-law or resolution by the members of the corporation
[*]an affidavit or statutory declaration of an officer certifying that the facts mentioned in the application are true
[*]an officer's statement certifying that:
[*]the corporation has no assets
[*]if the corporation had assets they have been: i) rateably divided amongst the members or ii) distributed among other corporations in Canada having the same or similar objects or among other recognized charitable corporations in Canada
[*]the corporation has no debts, liabilities or other obligations
[*]the original Letters Patent (and Supplementary Letters Patent if any).If those have been lost, anaffidavit or statutory declaration attesting to that fact is required If the application is pursuant to subsection 32(1), the following further documents must be filed:
[*]A copy of the Canada Gazette and newspaper publications, indicating the date of publication(see model in annex) If the application is pursuant to subsection 32(2), i.e. the corporation has not gone into bona fide operationor has been inoperative for 3 or more consecutive years, the Department will publish thenotice in the Canada Gazette.
If accepted, what you get back
A Directive of Dissolution and Surrender of Charter bearing an effective date one year after the date ofpublication in the Canada Gazette.No other certificate is issued and the dissolution takes effect unless areasonable objection is received.
If not accepted, what you get back
[*]a checklist identifying the unacceptable provisions with an "X"
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How you Complete the Non-profit Checklist
You indicate with a check mark the items that appear in your application document and you specifyunder what Section number of your by-laws certain listed matters have been dealt with(see annex 11).Send the completed checklist along with your application.
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How you Apply for Approval of your Standard By-LawFormat
If you intend to use the same By-Law more than once, write to us requesting approval.Your covering lettershould be referenced "Request for Approval of Standard By-law Format".If your standard by-law format isapproved, you will receive an identifier.In all cases where this standard by-law format isused the identifier should be clearly indicated in the covering letter.In such a case there will be no need tocomplete the by-law checklist, and the by-laws will not be examined in the Directorate.
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How you Find an Acceptable Name for your Non-Profit Corporation
The proposed name of your corporation must be searched and approved before Letters Patent orSupplementary Letters Patent changing the name, may be issued.It must be searched on NUANS®, theautomated search system administered by the Department, which scans the database also administeredby the Minister.
In addition to the Corporations Canada, certain private firms, called Search Houses may access thisdatabase of the NUANS® system.They will produce a 5 page computer printout called a search reportand may provide you with their opinion as to whether or not the Minister will approve the name which youpropose.Where the search report reveals no conflicting names and the name is not otherwise prohibitedfor incorporation by the regulations, you will have a priority on that proposed name, over other federalapplicants for incorporation, for 90 days from the date of the search.
To have your proposed name searched you may:
[*]prior to submitting your application to Corporations Canada, forward a request for reserving aproposed corporate name to one of the private firms (Search Houses), who access the federal databaseon the NUANS® System.The five page computer printout which they will issue for a fee which they determine,must accompany your application, or
[*]send the appropriate name search fee along with the application and the name will be searchedwhen the documents are received in the Corporations Canada If approved, the name will be reserved for a period of 90 days from the date of the search.If not approved,you will be advised that Letters Patent cannot be issued.
A copy of the relevant name regulations and the relevant page from the name policy are attached asannex 12. Generally speaking, not-for-profit corporations should avoid names which are too general, e.g. The Kidney Institute, or connote government involvement, or are likely to be confused as being, or as being affiliated with certain existing organizations.
The applicants may wish to consider adopting a bilingual corporate name if they intend to carry onbusiness in a bilingual region.
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IIIPlease Note ...
Totally Inadequate Applications
From time to time, applicants, especially those who represent an existing unincorporated body, willsubmit their organizations' existing by-laws without any attempt to alter them to meet the requirements ofthe Act.Such applications will be rejected after only a cursory examination.The applicants will befurnished with a kit and advised to resubmit redrafted documents for examination.
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Complaints and Suggestions
We would be happy to receive any constructive complaints or suggestions relating to the kit, themodel by-laws, the policy or the processing of applications, which may reasonably enable us toimprove our service.Please address such written complaints or suggestions to the attention of theChief, Corporate Examination Section.
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Registration with Revenue Canada as a Charitable Corporation
Certain not-for-profit corporations whose objects meet the criteria specified by Revenue Canadamay be registered with Revenue Canada as charitable corporations, enabling them to issue taxdeductible receipts to those who contribute to their cause.Information and the application formconcerning charitable registration are available from:
Charities Division
Revenue Canada, Taxation
400 Cumberland Street
Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0L8
Telephone:Local (613) 954-0410
Long distance (Toll Free) - 1-800-267-2384
In order to avoid unnecessary applications for Supplementary Letters Patent, Revenue Canadasuggests that you make your application for registration prior to or at the same time as you file yourapplication for incorporation.A draft of the objects which you propose to insert in the application forincorporation should be attached to the application going to Revenue Canada, for registration.
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"Non-Profit" Status with Revenue Canada
Non-profit corporations may be exempt from the need to pay tax if they meet certain criteria specifiedby Revenue Canada.Revenue Canada suggests that you consult your District Taxation office to obtainthose Interpretation Bulletins dealing with "not-for-profit" status for tax purposes.
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Filing Requirements
Annual Summary
Once incorporated, a not-for-profit corporation must file an Annual Summary with the CorporationsCanada, on or before June 1st of each year, containing information relating to the year ending March 31st. A blank Annual Summary form is sent out to the corporation at its postal address on record in the CorporationsCanada, on or about March 31st of each year.A sample Annual Summary form is attached asAnnex 14. Failure to file the Annual Summary in any given year is an offence which is subject to a fine. Failure to file for two consecutive years can result in the dissolution of the corporation (Section 133 of the Act).
Change of Head Office Location
The corporation must file a by-law, sanctioned by a 2/3 vote of members, in order to change theplace (municipality) where the head office of the corporation is situated (Section 24 of the Act).
By-Law Amendments
In accordance with the general by-laws, a not-for-profit corporation will be required to submit anyamendments of its general by-laws to the Corporations Canada for the approval of the Minister.Mostgeneral by-laws require that such amendments be approved by the membership before theapplication is made to the Minister for his approval.
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Record Keeping
The corporation is to keep the following records in the custody of the secretary or some otherofficer especially charged with that duty (Section 109 of the Act):
[*]a copy of the Letters Patent, any Supplementary Letters Patent and all by-laws of thecorporation
[*]the names of all persons who are or have been members
[*]the address of each such person while he/she is a member
[*]the names, address and occupations of all persons who are or have been directors, and thedates upon which each became or ceased to be a director The corporation is to keep adequate accounting records at the Head Office of the corporation(Section 117 of the Act).
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Director General's Power of Investigation and Inquiry
The Director General, Corporations Canada has the power to inquire into alleged contraventionof the Act by a not-for-profit corporation.Where, for instance, it is brought to her attention that a corporationfails to hold annual meetings or to keep proper books and accounting records, or fails to appoint auditors,the Director General may conduct an inquiry and, where necessary, will use the remedies available to herunder the Canada Corporations Act to enforce compliance.
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Affidavits, Statutory Declarations and Commissioner for Taking Oaths
An affidavit is a written statement of evidence sworn before an authorized person.There is a clause,known as a jurat, written at the foot of an affidavit certifying when, where and before whom the affidavit wassworn (see annex 5).
Where a person does not want to give evidence under oath, he/she may make a solemn declaration inthe form prescribed under the Canada Evidence Act.Those persons who are authorized to takeevidence under oath may receive the solemn declaration of any person in this form (seeannex 13).
Certain persons are authorized by law to take oaths by virtue of the offices they hold.Lawyers,notaries and Members of Parliament are automatically such persons and are called Commissioners forTaking Oaths.You will also be able to find a Commissioner at your local city hall.
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IVRemember ...
Unless you have a particular reason for doing so, do not send your application to the Minister, butrather directly to:
Corporations Canada
Industry Canada
9th Floor, Jean Edmonds Tower South
365 Laurier Avenue West
Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0C8
[*]Enclose the proper fee (see annex 15)
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