关于中国的媒体，兄弟我被老美问倒了，进来帮着说话

William

3. What do you see as the future of Chinese Communication media?

5. What are the similariities and differences in news stories in China compared to America?

6. Are Chinese media allowed to do social commentary?

7. What restrictions do Chinese news media have?

8. What types of legal restrictions are placed on Chinese media?

9. What should we learn from America?

thanks!

William

大家可以挑着回答，有大奖。

戈壁胡杨

5、相同点是不失时机的丑化对方

不同点是，越抹越黑和越抹越白，因文化不同解读不同

戈壁胡杨

4、有事做

戈壁胡杨

6、是的，新闻媒体是党的喉舌，不说党话就要割去

戈壁胡杨

7、听党的话、跟党走

戈壁胡杨

8、美国有的中国都有，区别是执行和不执行

土制坦克

3.中国的媒介在未来有可能呈现党政控制、民营和外资三足鼎立态势。
5.相同点：都是新闻故事，都强调真实性、客观性等新闻的基本原则，都反映记者和编辑的立场；不同点在于两国记者和编辑的立场不同，另外，写作手法也有区别。
6.允许。
7.任何国家的新闻报道都会受到某些限制，只是程度和表现不同而已。中国也不例外，“喉舌”理论是各种限制的只要根源。
8.目前尚无新闻法，但有行业法规，如电影行业。
9.中国的媒介理论和实践本就有很多东西源于美国。政治制度和国情不同，有些东西学不了。

William

5、相同点是不失时机的丑化对方

不同点是，越抹越黑和越抹越白，因文化不同解读不同
戈壁胡杨 发表于 29-7-2009 11:43

                               
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你一层楼回答一个是不是可以多挣些分分？

William

谢谢坦克和胡杨的真挚高见！

那时枫叶

补充说，毫无疑问，美国的媒体比中国媒体先进很多。科学技术水平、民主开放程度、思想观点多样化等等。但，受众不同，表现形式一定是不尽相同的。就算他先进，他来了中国也不一定就有市场。这市场所受的制约，不仅来自于政府控制，也有可能来自于民间群众。比如CNN事件。。。

zhangyl

3. What do you see as the future of Chinese Communication media?

Due to the open-mind of the government, more freedom of the media will be shown in the future.

5. What are the similariities and differences in news stories in China compared to America?

Because of the difference in the system and control of government, the news may show the control points. Even in States, government also gives the regulation about the news.

6. Are Chinese media allowed to do social commentary?

Maybe

7. What restrictions do Chinese news media have?

Regulations come from the government. Some news can be released, while some cannot.

8. What types of legal restrictions are placed on Chinese media?

Right now the legal in media does exit.

The reason can be seen as follows:

新闻出版总署署长柳斌杰3日在做客强国论坛访谈时就网友普遍关注的“为何中国没有《新闻法》”的问题进行了解释。

    柳斌杰说，新闻出版领域的法制建设一直受到党和国家的重视，改革开放以来，我们已经建立起了一个比较系统的法制体系。这主要是宪法、刑法、著作权法、出版管理条例、广播管理条例、音像管理条例、互联网传播权的管理条例等等，已经对新闻传播和出版做出了法律的规定，基本上满足了当前行政管理和行业发展的需要。很多同志不了解，以为我们没有这门法律，其实我们这门法律已经是很系统的。

    为什么没有上升到《新闻法》和《出版法》？这曾经也是我们国家法制建设讨论的一个问题，正像网友所说的，曾经在人大常委会立法工作中多次讨论过。为什么现在没有出来？柳斌杰对此进行了解释。

    《新闻法》这是一个涉及多方面利益和公共利益的一个法律的类别，不是相当成熟的国家中，都没有《新闻法》，很多人不是崇尚美国的新闻自由吗，美国就没有《新闻法》，恰恰相反，美国禁止出台《新闻法》，对宪法的条文做了解释，他们认为出台《新闻法》就是对某一方面新闻自由的干涉，所以不允许出台《新闻法》，世界上多数国家也没有《新闻法》，为什么？新闻立法的难度是很大的。你是保护公众的新闻自由、保护新闻工作者的新闻自由还是保护当事者的新闻自由，这个角度是很难选的。

    柳斌杰说，就目前我们国家要求新闻立法，我认为从我接触到的情况有三种：有人呼吁新闻立法是限制新闻工作者的自由，他不愿意让你曝光、采访、监督，他希望有这个法律把新闻工作者管住，这显然也不恰当。有一种立法的呼吁是保障公民的新闻自由，这是我们宪法上已经保障了的，不需要再用法律去规定。有一种要求新闻立法的是呼吁保障当事人利益的，特别是在新闻事件中受到冲击、受到影响的这一类人员，强调呼吁由《新闻法》管管新闻单位，这又不利于我们加强舆论监督，因为舆论监督是民主社会的一个重要的方面。所以鉴于这样一种情况，大家在认识上还很不一致。加之目前我国的传媒事业正在发展，依赖于计算机、互联网、数字化这些新的技术，传媒也正在发展，正像胡锦涛总书记所讲的那样，像互联网新媒体这样，未知领域远远大于已知的领域，你还不了解它，你还不掌握它，它将来会是一个什么局面，会对我们整个传播带来哪些深刻的变化，你还没有规律性的认识，所以，在这样一种情况下，我想任何一个负责任的人都会感觉到这是相当困难的。所以，不如我们暂时让它再发展一段，利用国家的其他法律、政府的管理条例，让我们这个事业更加成熟、更加发展，在更加恰当的时期再来谈论这个问题，会更合适一点。

    出版现在有法可依，《著作权法》是出版管理的一个重要的法律依据，对所有的知识生产者的权利都是一种保护，对所有的知识传播都有规定。相应的还有一个《出版管理条例》，这是一个相当成熟的法规。它现在在实践中已经进行过几次的修订，更加符合我们当前中国出版业发展的现实。如果我们有必要的话，它就能很快上升为国家的法律，这个不存在多大的问题。所以，我希望关心这方面的同志，研究一下国内外的情况，多了解一下我们的现实，大家在这个问题上就会有更多的共识、更多的理解。


9. What should we learn from America?

Sometime truth is important while sometime the control is also important.

戈壁胡杨

你一层楼回答一个是不是可以多挣些分分？
William 发表于 2009-7-29 13:27

                               
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1、率性回答，没考虑分分，不知分分有何用？

2、随时可能离开，比如刚打个9，就走了

戈壁胡杨

9、讲真话

追求真理

Ruibin

Are these questions asked by LZ or by the other individuals, like US local people?

If they are asked by the US people, zhangyl's answer would be better cuz such answers will make fresh views against what they were expecting (the negtive discription for Chinese news midea).

If it's William yourself asking these questions, all opinions above are good to be concerned.

William

Special thanks to all the friends in this thread.
The questions above are from the university where I am currently visiting, the professors and their students invited me there to share the media status quo in china, I have just survived the discussion, I was almost killed there!

I definately benefited a lot from the questions and answers. Thank you.

William

I integrated all the answers above as follows:

3. What do you see as the future of Chinese Communication media?
1)        More open and more transparent, Due to the open-mind of the current government, more freedom of the media will be shown in the future.
2)        More completions between media and more benefits to the audience
3)        More voice more choices,
4)  中国的媒介在未来有可能呈现党政控制、民营和外资三足鼎立态势。

William

5. What are the similarities and differences in news stories in China compared to what you have experienced during your stay in America?

Because of the difference in the system and control of government, the news may show the control points. Even in States, government also gives the regulation about the news.
in short, similarities as well as differences,
1). about investigating privately
美国对暗访的采用要经过严格的审批。通常程序是记者先向主编说明自己将要采访的内容无法通过正常的拍摄而获得，必须要经过暗访才可行。然后由记者填写一张申请表，主编向上级层层汇报，结果是有可能得到批准有可能遭到否决。应该说，在申请密拍方面，国外是很严格的。我们的情形是相对宽松一些。
2)、关于negative and downside news的“两条effect”
中西方国家都有负面新闻的提法，记者为何要采写负面新闻呢？盖博有个很有趣的说法。记者既是社会的lookout post，也是危机的early warning，西方还有一种说法是“社会的watchdog看门狗”。狗有个特点，当情况正常的时候，它是不会叫的。只有当出现了异常的情况的时候，它才会叫，并且必然会叫。
3). 媒体的objectivity
在国外，媒体如此介入事件本身是不会被接受的，因为媒体是记录者和观察者，而不是参与者。媒体如果介入事件本身，就容易导致偏见，好比运动场上既当裁判又当运动员，会妨碍Impartiality, justice and righteousness.

William

6. Are Chinese media allowed to do social commentary?
Yes, but it depends on its degree of commentary.
1) I’d like to talk on the comment on blogs. cuz I believe china has more bloggers, not just because China has a larger population, Blog is something with Chinese characteristics.
It is reasonable to say that blogging has changed China. On the other hand, blogging is something with Chinese characteristic. Speak from the perspective of a foreigner from Japan, Australia and the U.S, no where else resemble what's happening here.
In China, ideas don't have an order, because media, blogger and readers are clashing with each others. It is a crucial factor to bring change to China.
In China, there are more real name bloggers than in Japan. (It can be used as a proof in a court, be it blogs or vedio blogs)
While in China, people want to elevate themselves via the blog platform, in terms of fame and thought.
2) We are in an era of critical mass
My feeling is that among the bloggers, apart from the occupational writers, many people with different disciplines are writing social critique.
3) The duty of intellectuals is to criticize
My reason to blog is to express frustration and indecent thought. I have explained, in my daily work I speak in ghost language, fart（屁） in official tongue, while in my blog I will speak human language. I really mean it. Up till now, I still speak in ghost language and fart in official tongue. I flatter to make a living. But in my blog, I speak the truth.
In my opinion, the duty of intellectual is to criticize.
When the lords say go east, we have to point out the danger of going east. When the lords say go west, we have to point out the problem of going west; When the lords say go south, we still talk about the negative side of the south. We criticize for the sake of criticism.

William

7. What restrictions do Chinese news media have?

• Regulations come from the government. Some news can be released, while some cannot.
• The information of the state leaders is restricted, such as their income, their relatives, their children.
  severe supervision
• F&L*G(evil church) and ba*jiu tian^men should not be reported. Because the conclusion has been made. They have had the last word.
• Sometime truth is important while sometime the control is also important.
• Speaking of the restrictions, China’s Gr*eat Fire*wall Blo*cks T*witter  and likewise.
  Fortunately, there are many technologies for you to get around the blo*cks of China’s Internet cen*sor*ship.