现在卡城经济的确很差。让人没有信心。
我主要是现在国内的工作还保留，所以才会有这些烦恼，真正一来就连根拔起的，就只能调整心态只想加拿大的好处了。其实，我在这里真实生活中遇到的人，刚来几乎都跟我有过同样 ...
lotusleaf 发表于 2009-12-16 05:09 http://www.ourdream.ca/forums/static/image/common/back.gif荷叶若放弃国内的工作真是挺可惜的
荷叶，说实话，我不是羡慕现在已经在加拿大的人，而是事情总是悬而未决很耽误工夫啊。。。其实在哪里工作和生活，我都有自己的适应办法，也有信心能坚持下去。从这个角度想，我觉得荷叶是在找出路，正在痛苦地抉择。。。
换个住的地方吧,西北区找个只乘Ctrain的公寓住,好多了,何况,西北区的小学初中高中都好,上U of C 和SAIT都近,明白为什么这边的房子贵了吧.
本帖最后由 dongma 于 2009-12-17 01:55 编辑
卡城今天0度.暖流已来了.
就下了几天的雪,最冷了那几天.是1893年以来最冷的几天.在卡城一定要及时添减衣服.夏天见你时,穿得就少,当时就咳嗽.
你最主要的是在这里没有找工作,对国内的工作又不舍得放弃,这是关键.
真正的动摇不是冷的问题.是想家了."却道天凉好个秋".什么都没有家庭的团聚重要,包括孩子的教育,一家人在一起才是家.教育问题,孩子将来还可以过来.假如一家人在一起,打工养家上学,也忙得高兴.现在你自己就出不去,孩子又小.
卡城今天0度.暖流已来了.
就下了几天的雪,最冷了那几天.在卡城一定要及时添减衣服.夏天见你时,穿得就少,当时就咳嗽.
你最主要的是在这里没有找工作,对国内的工作又不舍得放弃,这是关键.
真正的动摇不是冷的问题.是想 ...
dongma 发表于 2009-12-17 00:09 http://www.ourdream.ca/forums/static/image/common/back.gifDongma也在卡尔加里啊？
随便检索一下 阿尔伯塔的油砂污染 就会看到若干文章，看了这些文章或许有启发，，，，
转载一篇：
Oil sands down-stream pollution is 50 times higher than normal
By Stephanie Dearing.
Perhaps Dr. John O'Connor as well as the residents of Fort Chipewyan might feel somewhat vindicated after their years of attempting to draw attention to pollution they said came from oil sands developments in Alberta were dismissed.
Alberta - They were ignored until Dr. O'Connor started taking his concerns to a bigger audience. After that, Dr. O'Connor faced a lot of vitriole, and had complaints lodged against him by his colleagues working at Health Canada. Thanks to Dr. O'Connor's efforts, the government of Alberta finally undertook a study of cancer rates in Fort Chipewyan, finding that what Dr. O'Connor said was true - there was a higher incidence of cancer than expected. Since then, Dr. O'Connor was cleared by the College of Physicians and Surgeons of Alberta when they dismissed the complaints against him. But even after all that, the only action that has been promised to the people of Fort Chipewyan is further research into the cancer rates.
An independent research study on pollutants in the Athabasca river, published Monday in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences might become the next big tool for proponents trying to get some action taken on tar sands pollution.
The research, titled, Oil sands development contributes polycyclic aromatic compounds to the Athabasca River and its tributaries was carried out by seven scientists from two Canadian universities and an Alaska-based organization called Oceana. In the introduction, the scientists say
"For over a decade, the contribution of oil sands mining and processing to the pollution of the Athabasca River has been controversial. We show that the oil sands development is a greater source of contamination than previously realized."
The report provides stunning information. The levels of toxic pollution attributable to the oil sands industries is, in some instances, 50 times higher than what had been thought was the case.
"This amount of bitumen released in a pulse would be equivalent to a major oil spill, repeated annually."
The report also said that there was no detailed monitoring of PAC fluxes. PACs are toxic chemicals, such as benzene. Some of these chemicals are also carcinogenic. The PACs emitted from oil sand plants were found to be both air and water-borne.
In their introduction, the researchers note that "... government, industry and related agencies ..." believe pollution from oil sand plants
"... are minimal, that natural sources cause elevated contaminant concentrations in the Athabasca and its tributaries, and that human health and the environment are not at risk from oil sands development."
The authors are critical of the Regional Aquatic Monitoring Program (RAMP).
"... Since 1997, the RAMP, funded by industry and directed by a multistakeholder committee, has monitored aquatic ecosystems near the oil sands development. However, it lacks scientific oversight, and a peer review severely criticized its ability to detect effects. RAMP data are not publicly available, and the methods used to analyze, interpret, and report the data are not entirely transparent."
The authors conclude
"Our study confirms the serious defects of the RAMP (12). More than 10 years of inconsistent sampling design, inadequate statistical power, and monitoring-insensitive responses have missed major sources of PAC to the Athabasca watershed. Most importantly, RAMP claims that PAC concentrations are within baseline conditions and of natural origin have fostered the perception that high-intensity mining and processing have no serious environmental impacts. The existing RAMP must be redesigned with more scientific and technical oversight to better detect and track PAC discharges and effects."
The report also calls for tighter control on waterborne PACs, and oversight by an independent body.
Dr. David Schindler told the Slave River Journal
"We have shown the assumption of industry and government, that all pollution of the oilsands comes from natural sources, is false. Some of the chemicals we document are known carcinogens. The concentrations as a result of industry are high enough to harm fish. So there is good reason to be concerned."
Dr. David Schindler, who is with the University of Alberta, was awarded a $1 million prize when he was bestowed with the Gerhard Herzberg Gold Medal for Science and Engineering in 2001. Schindler has also been awarded a number of honorary degrees, and has also been the recipient of the Alberta Order of Excellence in 2008.
The other scientists who collaborated in the study include Jeffrey W. Short, the Pacific Science Director at Oceana; Erin N. Kelly, a graduate student of Dr. Schindler; Peter V. Hodson, with Queens University; Mingsheng Ma, University of Alberta; Alvin Kwan, also with the University of Alberta; Barbra L. Fortin, University of Alberta.
A documentary outlining Dr. John O'Connor's efforts to bring the attention of authorities to the pollution caused by the oil industry is called Downstream.
8-)金花发的是什么？
87# 小鸟神威 了解阿尔伯塔，学习英语阅读资料
再给你转帖一篇：
Oilsands pollution exceeds official estimates: studyBob Weber THE CANADIAN PRESS
Published On Mon Dec 7 2009
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EDMONTON – An independent study suggests pollution from Alberta's oilsands is nearly five times greater and twice as widespread as industry figures say.
The study says toxic emissions from the controversial industry are equal to a major oil spill occurring every year. Government and industry officials say contamination in area soils and rivers is natural, but the report links it firmly to oilsands mining.
"We found rather massive inputs of toxic organic compounds by the oilsands industry to the Athabasca River and its tributaries," said David Schindler, a co-author of the study. "The major contribution to the river was from industry."
The study, published Monday in the U.S.-based Proceedings of National Academy of Science, also takes direct aim at Alberta's monitoring program.
"Our study confirms the serious defects of the (regional aquatic monitoring program)," it says. "More than 10 years of inconsistent sampling design, inadequate statistical power and monitoring-insensitive responses have missed major sources of (contamination) to the Athabasca watershed."
The report is the latest to question official figures and point out the industry's environmental costs – from acid rain to reduced songbird populations.
In the summer of 2008, Schindler's team set up monitoring stations on the Athabasca and several of its tributaries. Some stations were upstream of both the oilsands and facilities, others were in the middle of the deposits but upstream of industry and still others were downstream of both.
It found petrochemical concentrations did not increase until the streams flowed past oilsands facilities, especially when they flowed past new construction.
"We always found that the major contribution to the river was from industry," Schindler said.
Researchers also took snow samples from similar locations earlier that spring.
They found deposits of bitumen particulates within a 50-kilometre radius around Suncor and Syncrude's upgraders – twice the previous distance estimate. The deposits were "substantial" and enough to form an oily slick on the snow when it was melted.
"The close association of deposition with proximity to the upgrading facilities suggests they are the primary source," says the report.
In all, the study estimates about 34,000 tonnes of particulates are falling every year near Suncor's and Syncrude's facilities, which were designated as the centre of development. Company figures total just over 6,000 tonnes.
The study calculates those particles carry 3.5 tonnes of raw bitumen and carcinogenic polycyclic aromatic compounds (PAC).
"This amount of bitumen released in a pulse would be equivalent to a major oil spill, repeated annually," the report says.
Schindler said the total concentration of pollutants, measured in parts per trillion, remains low in both soil and water, although there's already enough to be toxic to some fish embryos.
He points out the compounds don't break down and gradually accumulate wherever they land.
Health implications for downstream communities are uncertain, Schindler said. Researchers weren't able to learn what happened as far downstream as Fort Chipewyan, where residents have long complained of high cancer rates.
However, the report's main conclusion is clear.
"The oilsands industry is a far greater source of regional PAC contamination than previously realized ... The existing (regional aquatic monitoring program) must be redesigned with more scientific and technical oversight."
Schindler said nothing has changed in the province's monitoring program since it was criticized in a 2004 review.
The study joins a growing pile of research on the industry's environmental impact.
In October, another report said greenhouse gas emissions from the oilsands are being underestimated by nearly a quarter because official estimates don't include carbon released from disturbed forests or peatlands. Last December, one paper found up to 12 per cent of the province's forest soils may be over their acid-carrying capacity, probably because of the oilsands.
At about the same time, an environmental group used industry figures to suggest that 11 million litres of contaminated water a day was leaking from tailings ponds.
U.S. researchers have said oilsands mines, roads and other facilities in the area are destroying so much bird habitat that up to 166 million fewer songbirds could be flying North American skies within 50 years.
The Alberta government has disputed those findings.
咋克服？忍无可忍，重新再忍？
lotusleaf 发表于 2009-12-11 14:18 http://www.ourdream.ca/forums/static/image/common/back.gif
9月份最好找工作时,还是该找工作干的,工作时间又灵活,就是每周干两个半天,收入也可以,也比在家里闲着好.孩子再想想办法.假如忍无可忍,那就回去呗,又不是来了就不能走.我一直感觉你没有下决心找个临时的活先度过这个特殊的阶段,其实,很多人不都是这么过来的.北京的同学,把每年二三十万的活都扔了.在这里找到专业工作又丢了,现在不也在安心地上学吗,你那个地方实在不该回去了.你自己也知道的.
回金花，看的我头晕脑胀的。。。恨死英文了！！！
本帖最后由 lotusleaf 于 2009-12-17 04:13 编辑
卡城今天0度.暖流已来了.
就下了几天的雪,最冷了那几天.是1893年以来最冷的几天.在卡城一定要及时添减衣服.夏天见你时,穿得就少,当时就咳嗽.
你最主要的是在这里没有找工作,对国内的工作又不舍得放弃,这是关键.
真正 ...
dongma 发表于 2009-12-17 00:09 http://www.ourdream.ca/forums/static/image/common/back.gif好久没见dongma了。在经历了-40°之后，今天的感觉象春天，呵呵。
我还没准备好做labor，而且，现在上学，也的确没太有时间。总是不想把自己弄得太累太郁闷，还是想舒服点过。我知道我缺乏吃苦耐劳的精神。不过，下学期我的课12点才开始，上午都空闲，等我试试能不能找个9点-11点的labor。
本帖最后由 dongma 于 2009-12-17 14:00 编辑
lotusleaf你的学费来支票了吗?
俺今年上的full time的LINC,很喜欢在那里的轻松的学习生活,也喜欢两个老师,一个叫Sandy,一个叫Carol.还报了两门的会计,也快考试了.每周还打3天的工.打工也学会了偷懒,没有想得那么累.老公也在拿EIfunding上学,每周允许打一天的工.今年感觉还可以.收支基本有余,已没有担心了,第一年的时候还心理上不适应.
你心理上的压力是很正常的,老公的来去问题,生活问题,加上你自己一人,一家人在一起是可以缓解很多的紧张.
俺这么老了,孩子也大了,所以心态一直还可以.
这一段没有时间到网上转转了.也没有时间给你电话联系了.
哇！你太强了！
我还没着落哪。不知道你哪天有空，所以，没敢打扰你。
本帖最后由 dongma 于 2009-12-18 00:02 编辑
好久没见dongma了。在经历了-40°之后，今天的感觉象春天，呵呵。
我还没准备好做labor，而且，现在上学，也的确没太有时间。总是不想把自己弄得太累太郁闷，还是想舒服点过。我知道我缺乏吃苦耐劳的精神。不过，下 ...
lotusleaf 发表于 2009-12-17 04:12 http://www.ourdream.ca/forums/static/image/common/back.gif
我还真见过每天打3个小时工的人,是个来自广西的小姑娘,就在这个学期,在T and T,下午5点放学,是6-9点的班,每周１－5,星期6和星期天各上8个。
打工,每个公共假期不上班,都有工资的,还有一年2个星期的休假的工资和一年的stakeholder。
俺没有专业,学中文的,来只前,就想先Labour,要不是Labour,哪里能买房子啊,从银行贷出款来,买个合适的房子,自己住和出租,就相当于有几十万加元给自己做Labour。
不要学俺，俺是６０年代出生的，属牛一类的。
本帖最后由 未飘落的雪 于 2009-12-18 00:59 编辑
还认识一个大姐，在国内高校教生化的，先在CO-Op Labour,边labour边上学，现已找到了在这里新学专业的专业工作，Full time上班，从９月－１２月中旬，还选了３门课，都是自学的，有一本书读了３遍，听得俺眼睛都直了。说起找空看《蜗居》时她顺口提到的。
俺也见过，上完学还在Labour的，还不只一个，就是现在的同事，与其上完学从新开始，不如现在就干。
在国内同事家的小媳妇，比你还苗条，也Labour,干够７００个小时，在家生孩子拿妈妈金呢。
也见过军区干部处领导家的孩子在Labour，送Pizza,没有Labour的是极少数，俺认识的只有和俺一样老的来自北京的一位夫人，老公是官员，什么级别不清楚，她没有打工！
看来你们****的收入就是高啊！
本帖最后由 dongma 于 2009-12-18 04:45 编辑
lotusleaf抽空你google一下，Ctrain除了downtown那几站没有暖气，看看Brentwood,dalhousie,crowfoot,whitehorn,franklin等等有没有暖气？不要以偏盖全，免得吓得别人不敢来喽！哈！
当然３路公共汽车站包括别的公共汽车站也都没有暖气，汽车里还是有暖气的！
知道汽车站没有暖气，大家怎么办的？
大家跺在Ctrain站里看，等汽车来了后，再出来，也不至于在外等几十分钟。你上３路汽车的地方，在龙成商店里可以看见汽车来的。换一下等车的地点就可以了。
不过说过了，大家都挨着Ctrain住，方便呢！
Ctrain基本上是几分钟一趟，基本不晚点。
看来书不能读的太多了。
哇！你太强了！
我还没着落哪。不知道你哪天有空，所以，没敢打扰你。
lotusleaf 发表于 2009-12-17 14:03 http://www.ourdream.ca/forums/static/image/common/back.gif
再找出有空的时间就不容易了。
１２月２５日，俺自动报名上班，２６，２７都上班，所以去老乡家吃饭，还没有找出时间，她让我定下时间再约别人，到现在都没有能定下来。还有博士家的嫂子，从她家７月份搬家就没有去，而嫂子抽空已来了两趟，无论如何，该到嫂子家看看了。还欠了好几个朋友，几个生孩子的朋友也该抽假期里看看。北京的老同学也早就让去她新买的房子里看看，也该顺便问问她家的孩子考大学的信息。
呵呵，关于等车，我也知道如果有暖和的地方的话，肯定去暖和的地方等咯。我无意吓唬大家的，见谅哦！这里的ctrain只有两条线，大部分的地区，是不能挨着ctrain的。而公共汽车站能挨着c-train的毕竟是少数，看看calgary一共有多少ctrain站就知道了，呵呵。而且，反正我常坐的这段车，没有房子的ctrain站的比例很高。再加上我那天去办事情的地方，根本不可能乘坐ctrain. 而且，由于大多数人不可能住在ctrain边上，所以，都需要乘坐一段bus，倒ctrain。只要bus中断，就回不了家。对了，跟我一起等几十分钟车的老太太是当地出生的，等车期间她抽烟，都是半跟半根地抽，她解释说没钱啊。呵呵，听她言谈举止，就算不是文盲至少受教育程度也不高，等车跟读书多少没关系的。当然，这只发生在恶劣天气，希望这里的恶劣天气不要太多，大家该来的还是要踊跃地来！『Canada-Flag』
俺是穷人啊，买不起房。但是，每个人对钱的态度是不一样的。现在，我一个人在这里带一个6岁的孩子，用探春的话说，生病是不被允许的，呵呵。所以，现在钱对我来说，不是最重要的。我现在非常没有安全感，害怕生病，害怕每周食物买的不够，因为是跟别人的车，要凑别人的时间。。。
我是个普通人啊，不够聪明，不够吃苦耐劳，所以，只在自己的能力范围内做自己力所能及的那一点。
声明：我说的都是我个人的真实经历，我不是调查员，所以，对整个calgary的了解不可避免会是片面的。如果引起大家误解，敬请原谅！
人各有志，dongma 大姐也别太激进了。荷叶在家自己带孩子情况不一样。现在天气这么冷又没有汽车，万一太累导致身体不好或者感冒了在家，谁来照顾孩子？
每个人有每个人的情况，不能要求谁来了都跑去打工吧。不想打就不打，想打就打。