yanyi2000 发表于 2008-3-29 20:49:46

我的工作职位为质量工程师是否符合2141

我的工作职位是质量工程师,可与 2141 Industrial and Manufacturing Engineers中Main duty所述内容相差很大,请各位好心人帮助解答并寻找合适的职业定位。谢谢!http://www.ourdream.ca/forums/images/smilies/common/wdb4.gif

mcs 发表于 2008-3-30 09:04:34

这个东西,关键看你的推荐信了。
我在国内做process engineer,认为QA 应该也属于2141.
大家是同行了。

yanyi2000 发表于 2008-3-30 12:03:06

我的工作职位为质量工程师是否符合2141

谢谢!可是2141 Industrial and Manufacturing Engineers中Main duty所述内容连Quality 这个词都没提到,我又找到0911 Manufacturing Managers中有manager, quality-control services的example title 不知哪个好,我把两个的内容复制在下面,请帮我界定。
2141 Industrial and Manufacturing Engineers
Industrial and manufacturing engineers conduct studies, and develop and supervise programs to achieve the best use of equipment, human resources, technology, materials and procedures to enhance efficiency and productivity. Industrial and manufacturing engineers are employed in consulting firms, manufacturing and processing companies, in government, financial, health care and other institutions, or they may be self-employed.

Example Titles
engineer, computer integrated manufacturing (CIM)
fire prevention engineer
industrial engineer
manufacturing engineer
plant engineer
production engineer
quality control engineer
safety engineer
work measurement engineer
>>View all titles

Main duties
Industrial and manufacturing engineers perform some or all of the following duties:
Plan and design plant layouts and facilities
Study new machinery and facilities and recommend or select efficient combinations
Develop flexible or integrated manufacturing systems and procedures
Conduct studies and implement programs to determine optimum inventory levels for production and to allow optimum utilization of machinery, materials and resources
Analyze costs of production
Design, develop and conduct time studies and work simplification programs
Determine human resource and skill requirements and develop training programs
Develop performance standards, evaluation systems and wage and incentive programs
Conduct studies of the reliability and performance of plant facilities and production or administrative systems
Develop maintenance standards, schedules and programs
Establish programs and conduct studies to enhance industrial health and safety or to identify and correct fire and other hazards
Evaluate or assess industrial facilities
Supervise technicians, technologists, analysts, administrative staff and other engineers.

Employment requirements
A bachelor's degree in industrial engineering or in a related engineering discipline is required.
A master's degree or doctorate in a related engineering discipline may be required.
Licensing by a provincial or territorial association of professional engineers is required to approve engineering drawings and reports and to practise as a Professional Engineer (P.Eng.).
Engineers are eligible for registration following graduation from an accredited educational program, and after three or four years of supervised work experience in engineering and passing a professional practice examination.
Supervisory and senior positions in this unit group require experience.

Additional information
Industrial engineers develop and implement organizational and management systems, and manufacturing engineers design production processes.
There is considerable mobility between industrial engineering specializations at the less senior levels.
Engineers often work in a multidisciplinary environment and acquire knowledge and skills through work experience that may allow them to practise in associated areas of science, engineering, administration or management.

Classified elsewhere
Computer Engineers (Except Software Engineers and Designers) (2147)
Engineering Managers (0211)
Mechanical Engineers (2132)
Metallurgical and Materials Engineers (2142)
Organizational analysts (in 1122 Professional Occupations in Business Services to Management)

0911 Manufacturing Managers:
Manufacturing managers plan, organize, direct, control and evaluate the operations of a manufacturing establishment or of a production department within a manufacturing establishment, under the direction of a general manager or other senior manager. They are employed by manufacturing companies.

Example Titles
automobile production manager
clothing factory manager
dairy plant manager
distillery manager
factory superintendent
foundry manager
manufacturing manager
operations manager, manufacturing
plant manager, manufacturing
printing plant manager
production manager – manufacturing
textile mill manager
tire plant manager
View all titles

Main duties
Manufacturing managers perform some or all of the following duties:
Plan, organize, direct, control and evaluate the operations of a manufacturing establishment or the operations or production department of a manufacturing establishment
Develop and implement plans to efficiently use materials, labour and equipment to meet production targets
Plan and manage the establishment of departmental budget
Develop production schedules and maintain an inventory of raw materials and finished products
Plan and implement changes to machinery and equipment, production systems and methods of work
Direct quality control inspection system and develop production reporting procedures
Develop equipment maintenance schedules and recommend the replacement of machines
Hire, supervise and train or oversee training of employees in the use of new equipment or production techniques.

Employment requirements
Completion of a college or university program in engineering or business administration is usually required.
Five to ten years of supervisory experience in manufacturing are required.
Additional information
Progression to senior management positions is possible with experience.

Classified elsewhere
Facility Operation and Maintenance Managers (0721)
Senior Managers - Goods Production, Utilities, Transportation and Construction (0016)
Transportation Managers (0713)
Utilities Managers (0912)

深圳细东 发表于 2008-3-30 12:46:41

这个要跟行业结合吧

例如做软件QA的就可以是测试工程师、配置管理工程师

yanyi2000 发表于 2008-3-30 17:41:41

我的工作职位为质量工程师是否符合2141

我做过注塑和印刷两个行业的质量工程师。主要负责:制定产品检验标准,参与制定产品质量控制计划,产品流程图、FMEA等及控制和分析生产过程中产成品的质量。处理客户投诉。请各位好心人帮助我界定职业定位。谢谢!

mcs 发表于 2008-3-30 22:31:58

基本上属于manufactguring engineer的范畴吧。
制定产品流程图,属于Develop flexible or integrated manufacturing systems and procedures 的一部分。
FMEA就是Conduct studies of the reliability and performance of production or administrative systems
相信在Quality Assurance过程中,也必然有Supervise technicians, technologists, analysts, administrative staff and other engineers的工作内容
作为QA,也必须参与到maintainancestandard, schedule的制定。哪怕你是push 相关的process engineer去做,也是一部分工作内容。

yanyi2000 发表于 2008-3-31 15:00:54

我的工作职位为质量工程师是否符合2141

谢谢!!!我还做过QC工程师(Quality Control Engineer)的工作,是否与0911 Manufacturing Managers(制造业管理者)中的exampl title:manager, quality-control services(它可译为管理者,质量控制服务性吗?)相符合?因它的
Main duty 中有与质量有关的一句话(我觉得与我从事的工作内容向福),见下面:
Direct quality control inspection system and develop production reporting procedures (译为指导质量控制检验系统和逐步开展生产报告程序吗?)

0911 Manufacturing Managers:
Manufacturing managers plan, organize, direct, control and evaluate the operations of a manufacturing establishment or of a production department within a manufacturing establishment, under the direction of a general manager or other senior manager. They are employed by manufacturing companies.

Example Titles
automobile production manager
clothing factory manager
dairy plant manager
distillery manager
factory superintendent
foundry manager
manufacturing manager
operations manager, manufacturing
plant manager, manufacturing
printing plant manager
production manager – manufacturing
textile mill manager
tire plant manager
View all titles

Main duties
Manufacturing managers perform some or all of the following duties:
Plan, organize, direct, control and evaluate the operations of a manufacturing establishment or the operations or production department of a manufacturing establishment
Develop and implement plans to efficiently use materials, labour and equipment to meet production targets
Plan and manage the establishment of departmental budget
Develop production schedules and maintain an inventory of raw materials and finished products
Plan and implement changes to machinery and equipment, production systems and methods of work
Direct quality control inspection system and develop production reporting procedures
Develop equipment maintenance schedules and recommend the replacement of machines
Hire, supervise and train or oversee training of employees in the use of new equipment or production techniques.

Employment requirements
Completion of a college or university program in engineering or business administration is usually required.
Five to ten years of supervisory experience in manufacturing are required.
Additional information
Progression to senior management positions is possible with experience.

Classified elsewhere
Facility Operation and Maintenance Managers (0721)
Senior Managers - Goods Production, Utilities, Transportation and Construction (0016)
Transportation Managers (0713)
Utilities Managers (0912)

yanyi2000 发表于 2008-4-2 20:20:24

我的工作职位为质量工程师是否符合2141

请联通老时空mcs和超级撒亚猫能继续帮助回答上面的帖子。
也请好心人同时帮助解答。
谢谢!

mcs 发表于 2008-4-8 23:07:53

个人认为工程师填成engineer比较合适一些。
而manager主要指经理。
direct,意思是指导,领导。如果是技术上,还是focus在engineer比较合适以一些。

yanyi2000 发表于 2008-4-8 23:43:04

谢谢联通老时空!
又发现问题:我的劳动合同上的工作职位都写的是质量工程师,其中在一家公司作QA engineer, 另外一家公司作QC engineer, 而NOC:2141Example title中没有Quality Engineer, 只有Quality assurance(QA) engineer 和Quality control engineer. 并且当时的公司中质量工程师也未区分QA engineer 和QC engineer。
请联通老时空和各位好心人继续帮忙解答。谢谢!『大汗』

mcs 发表于 2008-4-11 13:16:19

你在NOC的2141的example titles里面点view all titles,你就会发现,里面的QA和QC都有得。

Results :22

2141   CIM (computer integrated manufacturing) engineer
2141   computer integrated manufacturing (CIM) engineer
2141   consulting industrial engineer
2141   cost engineer
2141   efficiency engineer
2141   engineer, computer integrated manufacturing (CIM)
2141   engineer, manufacturing
2141   fire prevention engineer
2141   industrial efficiency engineer
2141   industrial engineer
2141   industrial safety engineer
2141   manufacturing engineer
2141   methods engineer
2141   plant engineer
2141   production engineer
2141   QA (quality assurance) engineer
2141   quality assurance (QA) engineer
2141   quality control engineer
2141   safety engineer
2141   systems engineer – manufacturing
2141   time-study engineer
2141   work measurement engineer

mcs 发表于 2008-4-11 13:23:12

原帖由 yanyi2000 于 2008-4-8 23:43 发表 http://www.ourdream.ca/forums/static/image/common/back.gif
谢谢联通老时空!
又发现问题:我的劳动合同上的工作职位都写的是质量工程师,其中在一家公司作QA engineer, 另外一家公司作QC engineer, 而NOC:2141Example title中没有Quality Engineer, 只有Quality assurance(QA) engin ...

这个就不大了解了。QC是不是Quality Control的意思?
还有,Example Titles并不是Title List.
只是举例,而不是所有可申请的Title。需要关心的是你的main duty,而不是title

nash 发表于 2008-5-13 14:19:57

MCS 请问工程师需要加拿大的认证吗?
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