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鲜为人知的故事:罗珠达哇在加拿大学电影的内幕报道之六 再次为国争光

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发表于 2007-3-18 12:23:18 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式

                               
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2007-03-18 12:05:43最近一次纪录片制作课的作业是观看美国、加拿大七部经典纪录片,其中大多是获得过国际大奖的片子,然后写出影片的分析。我这一次得了91分,全班还有一个94分的,一个92分的,只有我们三人上90分,其余全是七八十分。我的项目伙伴、美国华盛顿州来的塔尼娅只得了71分。

我最早看到全班的作业和分数,于是将94分的那个人的作业仔细研究了一番,原来她就是我们的女班长,一个祖籍挪威的白种女人。在她的作业中,老师约翰逊有三处用红笔注明:“影片的观点在哪里?”后面是好几个问号。而我的作业中,老师有两处注明:“这恰恰就是影片要阐述的观点!”后面是两三个感叹号。末了老师还注明“干得漂亮!有很好的分析!”

我越发不明白了,明明我的作业水平更高,为什么女班长还比我多三分?我当时就要将该女班长的作业复印下来,找约翰逊评理。后来又想,别让人觉得中国人那么计较分数。我还是比较信赖约翰逊的,他毕竟是加拿大德高望重的纪录片大师,曾经是加拿大国家电影委员会会员,他打分应该具有权威性的,也可能他在评阅一堆作业时不可能总是做到标准统一,于是出现了上述不公平的现象。

班长的作业还有一个问题,就是书面英语口语化,太多个人化的语气。比如,她写道:“我真的太喜欢这部影片了!”书面英语,尤其是学术文体,绝对不可以出现这样的话。我们在研究生的时候,英国老师非常注重文体,而且花了很大功夫教会这帮不会写英文学术文章的中国学生使用正规的书面英文表达方式。

不管怎样,我作为一个中国人,看人家国家的电影,没有字幕的帮助,还要用人家的语言写影评,还得了90多分,已经很不容易了。不过我还是要和约翰逊沟通一下,否则以后我的作业还会遭遇这种不公平。
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发表于 2007-3-18 12:54:38 | 显示全部楼层

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必须要和约翰逊沟通一下,问问同第一名的差距在哪里?
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发表于 2007-3-18 12:56:39 | 显示全部楼层

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班长的作业还有一个问题,就是书面英语口语化,太多个人化的语气。比如,她写道:“我真的太喜欢这部影片了!”书面英语,尤其是学术文体,绝对不可以出现这样的话。我们在研究生的时候,英国老师非常注重文体,而且花了很大功夫教会这帮不会写英文学术文章的中国学生使用正规的书面英文表达方式。

不管怎样,我作为一个中国人,看人家国家的电影,没有字幕的帮助,还要用人家的语言写影评,还得了90多分,已经很不容易了。


楼主的英文,真是够生猛的呀~~~~~~



佩服!
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发表于 2007-3-18 15:23:57 | 显示全部楼层

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顶啊,给咱中国人长脸了
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发表于 2007-3-18 15:32:03 | 显示全部楼层

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这个美国华盛顿州来的塔尼娅真给美国丢脸
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发表于 2007-3-18 18:37:41 | 显示全部楼层

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再次祝贺搂主取得一个有一个的骄人成绩。

给楼主提个议,可否把94分的和91分的影评张贴上来大家也学习、比较一下。
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 楼主| 发表于 2007-3-19 01:21:37 | 显示全部楼层

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Post by williamwoo;593499
再次祝贺搂主取得一个有一个的骄人成绩。

给楼主提个议,可否把94分的和91分的影评张贴上来大家也学习、比较一下。


我的作业还在我的电脑里,但是那个94分的我没有机会复印备份,人家早把作业领走了。

这是俺的:



When Shirley Met Florence
The point of view of the film—
This film tells a hard-to-categorize love story of two 60 something women attached to each other for a lifetime—Shirley, a heterosexual woman and Florence, a homosexual woman. Florence was attracted to Shirley since they met, but Shirley had boyfriends. Sexuality might divide them, but music brought them together. By exposing an alternative lifestyle of these two women, the film might be suggesting that love built on the basis on sharing interest may cross the boundary of sexuality.
How the style of this film contributes to the point of view—
- Being about two women in a lifelong romantic friendship creating and playing their own music either at home or at the gay and lesbian parade, this film shows plenty of intimate images of the two women performing, contributing to the theme of love, including the way they comment each other regarding their first meet and first impression, the affectionate way they look at each other when playing music together or when one party is speaking while the other is not.
- Constantly showing these two women together, either in an interior interview or in an action one, well portraits a loving and caring relationship between the two women.
- Images well edited into the film to emphasize key elements during their speech, including but without limit to, the window scene, the old still photos of the women at a younger age, etc.


Nails
The point of view of the film—
While technology changes and improves, human involvement reduces, there is less “human” element in production.
How the style of this film contributes to the point of view—
- “Primitive” blacksmith scene, slow but natural, and the mill and factory scenes, faster and yet mechanical, provide a sharp contrast that contributes to the theme.


Lonely Boy
The point of view of the film—
By using the title “Lonely Boy” for the documentary of a pop idol in 1960s, the film, which documents Paul Anka’s rise to fame, reveals what people may not see behind the glory of a young man transforming from nobody to a super star—the support and manipulation of the promotion industry and the loss of personal life and freedom while becoming a celebrity.
How the style of this film contributes to the point of view—
Starting with the song “Lonely Boy,” Lonely Boy has a great number of close-up shots of fanatic fans screaming, weeping and crying, visually indicating that what a pop star Paul Anka was. Interviews with Paul Anka’s manager reveal how the promotion industry behind Paul Anka operated. It seems, from these interviews, that this film is more about an elaborately run promotion industry than Paul Anka’s biographical documentary.




The Image Before Us
The point of view of the film—
Although Vancouver is a young city without a long history, it has its own ways to demonstrate its identity through films. This history documentary is in an attempt to demonstrate what kind of place Vancouver is by showcasing its manifold sides—it’s multicultural, it’s the gateway to Asia, it’s paradise, tourists’ destination, a city honored by royal visits, a great place for film-making… The film might be suggesting that the images of the city are manipulated by films.
How the style of this film contributes to the point of view—
This film, interestingly, has the use of the caption of silent films in the early times (such as “Oriental Sundae”, “A Trip to Big Trees if Stanley Park”, etc.), artistically contributing to the authentic feel of the film chronically documenting the historic development of Vancouver. Additionally, with rich stock footage, the film is free to demonstrate it’s working hypothesis through whatever images the filmmaker wants, including the royal visits, the peanut rolling scene on Hastings, the Japanese farmers working in the field. These very graphic images illustrate the many sides of the city as presented by films.



Quebec As Seen By Cartier-Bresson
The point of view of the film—
This original documentary showcases the life of the citizens of Quebec through the still photos.
How the style of this film contributes to the point of view—
Though I do not have much knowledge of Quebec, or any other cities in Canada, I particularly like the style of this documentary, which is basically a showcase of still black and white photos of the past by the famous photographer, and yet the extraordinary sound track makes it authentic and brings life to the film without a motion image. The sound of children singing goes with the landscape, the church, the old and new construction. Church bell rings when the photos show a funeral. Traffic noises rise when street scenes show up. Birds chirp when we see the forest. Chainsaw sounds accompany the construction site photos. Fans’ screaming go along with the photos of Paul Anka. In my view, without the perfect sound effect, the film would not have become a great, dynamic documentary.


Flamenco
The point of view of the film—
The intention of this documentary is to demonstrate a Flamenco dance class with senior students at the National Ballet School of Canada, who are learning a unique dance form from a quite different culture, with the instructors, Susanna and Antonio, coming all the way from Spain to teach the students. What makes it more interesting is that it is a group of Canadian Ballet students who are learning Flamenco stemming from ancient gypsy dance, which is so different from the royal and elegant Ballet. The film, through interviews with Susanna and Antonio, conveys a secret to learning the dance—dance should speak passion and contradiction between earth and sky.
How the style of this film contributes to the point of view—
Being a performance documentary, this film apparently has an extremely dynamic visual effect, showing the passion and ground-breaking rhythm of the art form, with plenty of close up shots of the feet, the arms and the expressive faces of the dance instructors and students. Though Susanna’s age is not told, the face shots indicate she is not young anymore, and yet the face shots reveal her passion, her infinite energy and her intense enthusiasm to teach Flamenco to these Ballet students. The climax is the final sequence, when Susanna dances solo in front of the mirror, contributing to her own words—one can dance Flamenco no matter how old he is.


This Unfamiliar Place
The point of view of the film—
This documentary film reminds me of the Italian masterpiece – Life is Beautiful. It is a daughter’s narrative on how a disaster made her attempt to explore and perceive her father’s untold secrets and memories about the past during World War II. She finds out, after she experiences a different disaster in her life, that her father has been hiding his memories of his traumatic childhood in Nazi-occupied Poland simply to protect the next generation from the pain of the past. Through interaction between two generations, the film seems to be suggesting how the War traumatized the older generation and how the older generation needs to carry on for the good of the younger generation.
How the style of this film contributes to the point of view—
- The suggestive motion images, including the dim, shaky and distorted garden scene, building ruins, catastrophic chaos, fire, as well as the sound of siren, the slow and yet sorrowful music, well demonstrate what a holocaust a disaster can cause and how poignant that part of history was.
- Switching between color and black and white images highlights the reverberation between the present day and the past. In particular, these heavily used black and white images include the images of the father dancing with joy, of construction crashing, the still photos of the father and his father when they were young, and the images of the training running, of the fire, the new apartment buildings in Poland and a young girl, her father, and other locals there.
- The narration in Polish makes the film more authentic, providing a sharp contrast between the Polish father and the Polish American daughter who seems to have lost her identity.
- The final sequence, where the father joyfully dances with his wife on the beach, is particularly meaningful in a way that indicates no matter how the history traumatized humanity and broke our hearts, life has to move on.
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发表于 2007-3-19 01:41:33 | 显示全部楼层

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我考
原来就是中心思想啊
我拿手,记得小学时尽训练这个
下次包坏交作业,让我看电影,我写中心思想,包坏翻译一下,肯定100分
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发表于 2007-3-19 03:30:28 | 显示全部楼层

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Post by 贾二爷;593708
我考
原来就是中心思想啊
我拿手,记得小学时尽训练这个
下次包坏交作业,让我看电影,我写中心思想,包坏翻译一下,肯定100分



毁人不倦,是贾二的优良作风!

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发表于 2007-3-19 05:34:13 | 显示全部楼层

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,看来楼主的水平对付这个post-secondary的program是绰绰有余。

到底是文艺界的,对待分数也这么开放。一般的北美学校都把学生分数当成个人隐私,不会有人试图去了解别人的分数,同学之间也不互相打听,除非关系特别好的。老师发作业时都把分数写在最后一页,学生们是领了自己的就走。我们学校有一个教授曾经因为没有注意这一点被学生投诉。楼主还要把那个高分的作业复印了去找老师理论,在我们这儿想都不敢想
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发表于 2007-3-19 06:18:25 | 显示全部楼层

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Post by wondering;593744
,看来楼主的水平对付这个post-secondary的program是绰绰有余。

到底是文艺界的,对待分数也这么开放。一般的北美学校都把学生分数当成个人隐私,不会有人试图去了解别人的分数,同学之间也不互相打听,除非关系特别好的。老师发作业时都把分数写在最后一页,学生们是领了自己的就走。我们学校有一个教授曾经因为没有注意这一点被学生投诉。楼主还要把那个高分的作业复印了去找老师理论,在我们这儿想都不敢想

读法律和读电影的,就是不一样呀!


楼主的英文,真是让人佩服呀!有时间也跟大家说说学英文的心得。
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发表于 2007-3-19 08:50:08 | 显示全部楼层

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这样的东西能拿90分?无语。
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 楼主| 发表于 2007-3-19 09:48:14 | 显示全部楼层

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Post by 小李美刀;593789
这样的东西能拿90分?无语。


你能拿9分就不错了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2007-3-19 13:33:48 | 显示全部楼层

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Post by wondering;593744
,看来楼主的水平对付这个post-secondary的program是绰绰有余。

到底是文艺界的,对待分数也这么开放。一般的北美学校都把学生分数当成个人隐私,不会有人试图去了解别人的分数,同学之间也不互相打听,除非关系特别好的。老师发作业时都把分数写在最后一页,学生们是领了自己的就走。我们学校有一个教授曾经因为没有注意这一点被学生投诉。楼主还要把那个高分的作业复印了去找老师理论,在我们这儿想都不敢想

这谁都知道。

但是每个老师习惯不一样,多数教师是自己亲自发放作业或试卷,但这个老师是将阅好的作业放在他的信箱里让我们自己去取。我和塔尼亚第一个去的,所以当然能看见别人的作业。塔尼亚只拿了自己的就完事了,我顺便翻了翻别人的作业,发现了分数的不公平问题。

不要将个案当作地域或学校门类的差异。
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发表于 2007-3-19 14:26:26 | 显示全部楼层

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不要计较了.
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 楼主| 发表于 2007-3-19 15:37:08 | 显示全部楼层

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Post by 贾二爷;593708
我考
原来就是中心思想啊
我拿手,记得小学时尽训练这个
下次包坏交作业,让我看电影,我写中心思想,包坏翻译一下,肯定100分

此言差矣,专业性影评可不是一般的中心思想。而且,国内所谓的影评家都不是真正的影评,而是影片内容REVIEW。影评要有固定的形式的,要用视觉语言来写,如镜头、蒙太奇、色彩、结构、人物、音响、剪辑………………………………等等。
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发表于 2007-3-19 21:46:55 | 显示全部楼层

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谢谢分享,我要看一些日子才能回帖。
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发表于 2007-3-20 03:45:19 | 显示全部楼层

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你写的也就是个中心思想。动不动还为国争光,你脸真够大的
整天就是转贴八卦新闻,整的自己跟狗宰队似的,这样的境界能拍出好东西吗?
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 楼主| 发表于 2007-3-20 03:50:22 | 显示全部楼层

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Post by 小李美刀;594505
你写的也就是个中心思想。动不动还为国争光,你脸真够大的
整天就是转贴八卦新闻,整的自己跟狗宰队似的,这样的境界能拍出好东西吗?


您就别多操心了,管好自己,吃饱穿暖就OK啦,别活得太累。谁都不容易。别人的帖子您爱看就看,不喜欢就不看。这是您的自由。

别人爱写什么就写什么,爱贴什么就贴什么,这是别人的自由。

OK,吃好点,穿暖和点,好好过日子吧。多动脑子挣些钱是正事儿。
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Post by 罗珠达哇;593811
你能拿9分就不错了。




有道理,

说得好

讲得对
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